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  • terryhawkes62
    Hi Gaylon, I m somewhat new and have been using the latest build (22) of AQ and so after reading your suggestion to see if Caching of NFS is disabled, I
    Message 1 of 10 , Feb 3, 2010
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      Hi Gaylon,

      I'm somewhat new and have been using the latest build (22) of AQ and so after reading your suggestion to see if Caching of NFS is disabled, I checked to see how mine was set since I'm using a fresh copy of AQ build 22 on a machine where no previous version was installed. Also note that this is a portable copy of AQ that I'm checking the Cache setting, but since portable copies are just a copy of the Original installed folder of AQ I wouldn't think is should make a difference for this setting.

      My Cache setting was enabled. So by default, even with build 22, Caching for NFS is already turned on. Is it your advice that everyone should disable it?

      If so, future versions/builds of AQ should have it disabled by default, or perhaps even remove it from the preferences all together if caching shouldn't be enabled anymore due to the problems you explained can happen.

      Larry H.

      --- In AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com, Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@...> wrote:
      >
      > Eric:
      >
      > Please make sure of two things:
      >
      > 1) Are you running the latest build (22)?
      >
      > 2) Do you have Caching of NFS data disabled? (Under the "FamilySearch"
      > tab of Preferences)
      >
      > For the first year of AQ working with NFS, AQ could cache the
      > information it got from NFS and reuse it later, because NFS would alert
      > AQ when any change was made to the person. If a change was made, AQ
      > would refresh its information from NFS rather than use the cached copy.
      > But sometime around either the May or August release of NFS, they
      > stopped alerting AQ when certain changes to the family were made, so AQ
      > would be misled into using old data on relationships. In later builds,
      > we removed most of the caching. This significantly slows down AQ's
      > access to NFS, but it also guarantees that you'll be getting current
      > relationship information.
      >
      > My best guess from your description is that AQ is still using an old
      > cached copy of information on this family, and you'll need to force it
      > to read current information by disabling the cache.
      >
      > Gaylon
      >
      >
      > emregister wrote:
      > > Jane and Dick have 2 children, Sally and Tom.
      > >
      > > All are synced.
      > >
      > > If I review Jane and check spouses and children then Sally does not appear
      > > in the FS column, I click to add and search and all that and it looks good -
      > > until I again review and there has been no change.
      > >
      > > If I review Dick and check for spouses and children then Sally does appear
      > > and all looks good.
      > >
      > > Back to review Jane etc. and Sally still does not appear.
      > >
      > > If I review Sally and then parents and siblings the family is complete.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I have tried unlinking Sally and starting over but the results are the same.
      > >
      > > I have checked and rebuilt my data base but the results are the same.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Any ideas?
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Eric
      > >
      > > No virus found in this incoming message.
      > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2542 - Release Date: 12/02/09
      > > 23:32:00
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------
      > >
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
    • emregister
      Right. New computer so new download of AQ and this is a preference forgot. Thanks. Eric & Marnie Abell Saanichton, BC Canada (250) 652 4616 ... From:
      Message 2 of 10 , Feb 3, 2010
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        Right. New computer so new download of AQ and this is a preference forgot.
        Thanks.



        Eric & Marnie Abell

        Saanichton, BC Canada

        (250) 652 4616



        -----Original Message-----
        From: AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        Gaylon Findlay
        Sent: February 3, 2010 8:33 AM
        To: AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [AQ_NFS] link problem what's going on





        Eric:

        Please make sure of two things:

        1) Are you running the latest build (22)?

        2) Do you have Caching of NFS data disabled? (Under the "FamilySearch"
        tab of Preferences)

        For the first year of AQ working with NFS, AQ could cache the
        information it got from NFS and reuse it later, because NFS would alert
        AQ when any change was made to the person. If a change was made, AQ
        would refresh its information from NFS rather than use the cached copy.
        But sometime around either the May or August release of NFS, they
        stopped alerting AQ when certain changes to the family were made, so AQ
        would be misled into using old data on relationships. In later builds,
        we removed most of the caching. This significantly slows down AQ's
        access to NFS, but it also guarantees that you'll be getting current
        relationship information.

        My best guess from your description is that AQ is still using an old
        cached copy of information on this family, and you'll need to force it
        to read current information by disabling the cache.

        Gaylon

        emregister wrote:
        > Jane and Dick have 2 children, Sally and Tom.
        >
        > All are synced.
        >
        > If I review Jane and check spouses and children then Sally does not appear
        > in the FS column, I click to add and search and all that and it looks good
        -
        > until I again review and there has been no change.
        >
        > If I review Dick and check for spouses and children then Sally does appear
        > and all looks good.
        >
        > Back to review Jane etc. and Sally still does not appear.
        >
        > If I review Sally and then parents and siblings the family is complete.
        >
        >
        >
        > I have tried unlinking Sally and starting over but the results are the
        same.
        >
        > I have checked and rebuilt my data base but the results are the same.
        >
        >
        >
        > Any ideas?
        >
        >
        >
        > Eric
        >
        > No virus found in this incoming message.
        > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
        > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2542 - Release Date: 12/02/09
        > 23:32:00
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >
        > ------------------------------------
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >





        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • emregister
        Gaylon, if you are looking at preferences to make defaults I have 2 suggestions: Have the change log on by default. When converting databases there is an
        Message 3 of 10 , Feb 3, 2010
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          Gaylon, if you are looking at preferences to make defaults I have 2
          suggestions:

          Have the change log on by default.

          When converting databases there is an option to preserve RIN numbers. It
          would be nice if the default was to preserve these.



          Eric


          I'm somewhat new and have been using the latest build (22) of AQ and so
          after reading your suggestion to see if Caching of NFS is disabled, I
          checked to see how mine was set since I'm using a fresh copy of AQ build 22
          on a machine where no previous version was installed. Also note that this is
          a portable copy of AQ that I'm checking the Cache setting, but since
          portable copies are just a copy of the Original installed folder of AQ I
          wouldn't think is should make a difference for this setting.

          My Cache setting was enabled. So by default, even with build 22, Caching for
          NFS is already turned on. Is it your advice that everyone should disable it?


          If so, future versions/builds of AQ should have it disabled by default, or
          perhaps even remove it from the preferences all together if caching
          shouldn't be enabled anymore due to the problems you explained can happen.

          Larry H.

          --- In AQ_NFS@yahoogroups. <mailto:AQ_NFS%40yahoogroups.com> com, Gaylon
          Findlay <gfindlay@...> wrote:
          >
          > Eric:
          >
          > Please make sure of two things:
          >
          > 1) Are you running the latest build (22)?
          >
          > 2) Do you have Caching of NFS data disabled? (Under the "FamilySearch"
          > tab of Preferences)
          >
          > For the first year of AQ working with NFS, AQ could cache the
          > information it got from NFS and reuse it later, because NFS would alert
          > AQ when any change was made to the person. If a change was made, AQ
          > would refresh its information from NFS rather than use the cached copy.
          > But sometime around either the May or August release of NFS, they
          > stopped alerting AQ when certain changes to the family were made, so AQ
          > would be misled into using old data on relationships. In later builds,
          > we removed most of the caching. This significantly slows down AQ's
          > access to NFS, but it also guarantees that you'll be getting current
          > relationship information.
          >
          > My best guess from your description is that AQ is still using an old
          > cached copy of information on this family, and you'll need to force it
          > to read current information by disabling the cache.
          >
          > Gaylon
          >
          >
          > emregister wrote:
          > > Jane and Dick have 2 children, Sally and Tom.
          > >
          > > All are synced.
          > >
          > > If I review Jane and check spouses and children then Sally does not
          appear
          > > in the FS column, I click to add and search and all that and it looks
          good -
          > > until I again review and there has been no change.
          > >
          > > If I review Dick and check for spouses and children then Sally does
          appear
          > > and all looks good.
          > >
          > > Back to review Jane etc. and Sally still does not appear.
          > >
          > > If I review Sally and then parents and siblings the family is complete.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > I have tried unlinking Sally and starting over but the results are the
          same.
          > >
          > > I have checked and rebuilt my data base but the results are the same.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Any ideas?
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Eric
          > >
          > > No virus found in this incoming message.
          > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
          > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2542 - Release Date:
          12/02/09
          > > 23:32:00
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > ------------------------------------
          > >
          > > Yahoo! Groups Links
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          >





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        • emregister
          I search and get a list of changed records. I review each record in turn. I again search and get a list of changed records. The records I have already reviewed
          Message 4 of 10 , Feb 3, 2010
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            I search and get a list of changed records.

            I review each record in turn.

            I again search and get a list of changed records.

            The records I have already reviewed are still on the list.



            Help. I am having nothing but difficulty with this feature.



            Eric



            Eric & Marnie Abell

            Saanichton, BC Canada

            (250) 652 4616



            -----Original Message-----
            From: AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
            emregister
            Sent: February 3, 2010 7:52 AM
            To: AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [AQ_NFS] link problem what's going on





            Jane and Dick have 2 children, Sally and Tom.

            All are synced.

            If I review Jane and check spouses and children then Sally does not appear
            in the FS column, I click to add and search and all that and it looks good -
            until I again review and there has been no change.

            If I review Dick and check for spouses and children then Sally does appear
            and all looks good.

            Back to review Jane etc. and Sally still does not appear.

            If I review Sally and then parents and siblings the family is complete.

            I have tried unlinking Sally and starting over but the results are the same.

            I have checked and rebuilt my data base but the results are the same.

            Any ideas?

            Eric

            No virus found in this incoming message.
            Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
            Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2542 - Release Date: 12/02/09
            23:32:00

            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • brs4src
            ... Gaylon, if you are looking at preferences to make defaults I have 2 suggestions: Have the change log on by default. When converting databases there is an
            Message 5 of 10 , Feb 3, 2010
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              ¬°Great suggestions! :

              --- In AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com, "emregister" <emregister@...> wrote:
              >
              Gaylon, if you are looking at preferences to make defaults I have 2
              suggestions:

              Have the change log on by default.

              When converting databases there is an option to preserve RIN numbers.
              It would be nice if the default was to preserve these.

              Eric
              >
            • SD Cline
              I have noticed exactly the same thing! In fact, I have stopped using the option because it makes no sense to me. I will be glad to hear the answer if someone
              Message 6 of 10 , Mar 31, 2010
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                I have noticed exactly the same thing! In fact, I have stopped using the
                option because it makes no sense to me. I will be glad to hear the answer
                if someone has it.



                S. Douglas Cline

                Executive Vice President

                Brown and Young Companies

                801 572-3060 (office)

                801 560-2340 (Mobile)

                clinesd@...





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