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904Re: [AQ_NFS] Identifying nFS as data source

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  • Allan Hale
    Oct 27, 2011
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      NFS is an opinion file UNTIL it allows quality sourcing. For those with lds account access to nfs go to the help center and request " What is the future of new.familysearch.org" (KD 112666) to see what is being considered. PAF Insight made that mistake of tagging each entry with an IGI source and I am still routing them out of my file.

      When the system allows quality sourcing then I would like to see it as a pass-through with the 'found on nfs' tag to qualify it.

      So the answer to #1 is a qualified yes but not yet.
      #2 See above. I want to know where the data really came from not what nfs says it is.(I still need to verify it though)
      #3 See above
      #4 See above.

      Opinion files are great places to start and most of the time have great stuff BUT I would rather see a quality 2 or 3 source. NFS is quality 1 at best.

      Allan Hale
      WWS Missionary


      >________________________________
      >From: Gaylon Findlay <gfindlay@...>
      >To: AQ_NFS@yahoogroups.com
      >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:22 PM
      >Subject: Re: [AQ_NFS] Identifying nFS as data source
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      >I've read not only Jim's original post on this topic, but also the
      >responses to it. Let me respond to all of you that are interested in
      >this issue from a big picture standpoint.
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      >Automatically adding a source to information obtained from nFS has been
      >an ongoing request of many users, and in fact was in the initial design
      >of the AQ features dealing with nFS -- but it has not yet been realized.
      >Part of the reason that we haven't implemented this yet is that we don't
      >feel we have the best method for doing so, and we need more feedback.
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      >I can see that if you have found a new piece of information in nFS, that
      >you might want it sourced as coming from nFS. However, you may have
      >merely found a better spelling of a place, and you are using the sync
      >capability for about the same purpose as a spell-checker. In this case,
      >you would mark the item from nFS to be brought into your AQ database to
      >improve your spelling. My guess is that you might not want this type of
      >update to be shown as having nFS as the source.
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      >As a result, I don't believe it would be prudent to have a truly
      >automatic capability to attach a source to items you take from nFS --
      >you would want to attach such a source to some items, but not others.
      >Which means that we'd have to add a checkbox on some screens, or have AQ
      >ask questions via popups. This would cause additional time, energy and
      >keystrokes each time you perform any synching operation. One concern
      >that I have is adding complexity to the process of synching with nFS. As
      >Tom Huber mentioned, the data you would get from nFS would be a lower
      >level of quality in a source -- it's not an original source, rather it's
      >more of a personal note to yourself as to where you looked for the
      >information.
      >
      >So let me ask some specific questions:
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      >1) If you are on the Individual Sync screen, and click on the option box
      >to move a data item from nFS to your record, would you like a checkbox
      >on that screen to indicate that you want a source to be attached to the
      >data? Or is there a better method?
      >
      >2) If you were to mark such a checkbox, would you always want the same
      >source? Or would you have a short list of sources that you could choose
      >from? Such as "LDS Temple Records" or "New.FamilySearch.org" or
      >something else -- you would create the actual source, with title,
      >author, etc the way you like, but you'd have a short list from which to
      >select.
      >
      >3) If you are on the Family Sync screen, and import a new person to your
      >file, do you want a source automatically added to the record of each
      >person? Do you want a source added to each data item, such as Name,
      >Birth, Death, Burial, Baptism, etc?
      >
      >4) If you use the Import Family Lines feature, do you want each imported
      >person, and each piece of data to have a source attached? Would it
      >always be the same source? Would you want AQ to ask you for each piece
      >of data to select a source from a short list?
      >
      >So for any of you who are interested in attaching "nFS" as a source to
      >information obtained from nFS: think through the questions above, and
      >others that you might come up with as you sync your data with nFS. Put
      >some thought into just how you would like AQ to handle some of the
      >details. Let's have a bit of discussion, and see whether it makes sense
      >to add such a feature, or whether it would be too cumbersome to be of
      >value. (Remember that many users would not want to use this feature, so
      >any solution should be unobtrusive -- you'd probably have to activate
      >the feature in Preferences.)
      >
      >Gaylon
      >
      >On 9/9/2011 4:16 PM, JimLight wrote:
      >> I have been using AQ for a couple of years now, but I only recently started
      >> using the synchronization with nFS feature to find and update my db with LDS
      >> Ordinance data. Previously, I used the synch feature, but did all the
      >> updating of ordinance data manually.
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      >> When I use AQ to update the ordinance data in my db, I would like AQ to also
      >> update the source information for the entries updated so that later I know
      >> that nFS was the source of the information. I'm sure that there is some
      >> option I can click to make that happen, but I don't see it.
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      >> Can someone tell me if this capability exists, and if so, how to invoke it?
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      >> Thanks.
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      >> Jim
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