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  • R Rusdiah @ Micronics
    Tahukah anda bahwa akhirnya notaris diAmerika setelah seratus tahun menggunakan kertas dan tinta...sekarang baru berani memakai high tech.. Ini adalah berita
    Message 1 of 1 , Jun 2, 2003
      Tahukah anda bahwa akhirnya notaris diAmerika setelah seratus tahun menggunakan kertas dan tinta...sekarang baru berani memakai high tech..
      Ini adalah berita dari Amerika...
      Tahukah anda bahwa banyak notaris diIndonesia masih pakai wordstar...bukan mswords atau office...karena terakhir saya kenotaris bulan lalu
      dikantornya saya lihat masih pakai wordstar dan menjadi standar notaris kayaknya...
      hasilnya juga cepat kok ...no big deals...:-)
      Jadi...teknologi is just a tool...kalau pakai wordstar masih bisa jalan...yah pakai saja wordstar....daripada pakai software yang canggih
      tapi nantinya mahal belum lagi masalah dengan copyright...karena wordstar/dos mungkin sudah dianggap obsolete, dan sudah ngak ada yang mengejar ngejar..I hope so..:-)
      Mengenai notaris pakai high tech...sabar deh...pertimbangkan dulu faktor keamanannya...kalau belum sreg yah...pakai saja yang tradisional...wong
      diAmerika juga masih ada yang ngak sreg pakai high tech ...:-)
      Jadi there is good news...there is still not bad news...afterall , what is your comment and experiences
      cmiiw semoga infonya berguna...:-)
      salam, rr
      note: 1 kalau masih pakai wordstar dan dos..mudah lo migrasi ke linux daripada ke windows nanti masalah dengan copyright , itu saran saya...tul
      ngak pak Mitro ?
      2 pakai komputer untuk arsip sebetulnya juga sangat bahaya...karena semua bisa jadi asli...dan ngak bisa lagi membedakan mana yang asli dan mana
      yang copy..tapi kalau pakai carbonized paper dan mesin ketik...kita bisa membedakan sekali mana yang asli dan mana yang copy.
      hati hati jika melihat dokumen dan jika harus membedakan dokumen asli dan tidak...karena dengan scanning dokumen asli bisa digandakan
      sepertihalnya mengcopy uang dengan mesin fotocopy warna...makanya butuh security paper yang canggih untuk membedakannya.
      sekali lagi hati hati..!
      Notaries Try Electronic ID Kit  Reuters  Page 1 of 1     02:00 PM Jun. 01, 2003 PT
      NEW YORK
      -- After centuries of relying on paper, ink quills and, more recently, rubber stamps to verify people's identities, U.S. notaries public are being dragged
      kicking and screaming into the modern, high-tech era. 
      A group leading 200,000 of the country's 4.5 million notaries recently unveiled an electronic signature, thumbprint and photograph kit that could make their
      jobs easier. 
      Notaries, also called trusted witnesses, check the identity of people signing documents such as contracts, loans and wills, then give their stamp of approval and
      record the event in a paper-based journal. The new kit could record the clients' thumbprint, signature and photograph in an electronic system. 
      But some notaries are unhappy about moving away from paper journals that they simply lock in a safe for security. Others say people would have privacy
      concerns about thumbprints. 
      "The way we do it is perfect ... This would mess up everything," said Barbara Citty, a California notary who has verified about 4,000 signatures in the last eight
      "I don't think computers are safe enough, and now that everybody's figured out how to get inside people's computers it's less safe than it ever was," Citty
      Notaries need more than paper journals to keep track of the 1 billion signatures they verify annually for everything from loans and house deeds to wills, argued
      Milt Valera, president of the National Notary Association, the biggest U.S. group. 
      Amid growing concerns about identity theft, fraud and terrorism, Valera says security is deeply important. The electronic kit adds more protection as notaries
      must place their thumb on a sensor to access their own records, he said. 
      The biometric technology behind the thumbprint feature is improving, but electronic equipment, like paper, is still fallible, according to Gartner analyst Victor
      "Fraud could happen either way. We're still trusting notaries to do their job -- to be honest and to identify with a minimum amount of doubt who is signing,"
      Wheatman said. 
      He referred to one case where a jelly-like thumbprint mold fooled one biometric sensor and another where people were able to blow on a sensor to create the
      print of the last user. 
      Citty would only buy the new system, which will cost about $400, if forced to by California law, which is stricter than every other state in the country, she said.
      U.S notaries, which were under the control of the Anglican Church authorities before the American Revolution, are now governed by state authorities with
      widely different rules. 
      "The laws in many states are very archaic, and as a result the processes of notarization in many situations are left essentially to the whims of the notary,"
      Valera said, adding that he did not use the word "whim" loosely. 
      The thumbprint and photographic record would help identify a client in subsequent signings but the notary has no way of double-checking if a particular name
      and thumbprint fits at a first transaction. 
      There are no immediate plans to allow notaries to double-check clients' thumbprints using records outside of their own, Valera said, but added that the current
      system fits in with all existing state laws while it is not required by any law. 
      Some notaries are more enthusiastic about technology than Citty, but still have concerns. 
      Brenda Lyons, a Dayton, Ohio, notary who has often notarized financial documents in clients' homes, believes a laptop computer would be more convenient than
      reams of paper. 
      "Currently everything is on paper. I certainly would like to do everything on computer," Lyons said. 
      But she predicted that while some people would be comfortable providing picture identification to notaries, they would balk at the notion of placing their
      thumbprint on file. 
      "We're not required to fingerprint, so I'm not currently doing that. It's not something people are open to," she said. 
      Notaries only hand over a record to law enforcers who have a subpoena, Valera said, adding that thumbprints are legally required for most signings. 
      Since notaries earn as little as 50 cents for a signing in some states and a maximum of $10 in others, cost is also an issue. But Lyons, who charges a maximum
      of $2 per notarization, said she would be willing to pay the $400 price for the kit. 
      But mobile notaries like Lyons can also charge for travel expenses, making the job more financially viable, Valera said. 
      Cranston, Rhode Island, notary Anthony Donohue already copies paper records onto a computer disk he locks in a safe. 
      He might upgrade if the security and the price were right but would prefer an electronic device that could guarantee an ID such as a drivers license was
      "I don't deal with immigration, but after Sept. 11 there were a lot of notaries that were angry with themselves," he said. 
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