## Re: [APBR_analysis] Re: the Ruben Patterson effect

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• ... The average position for each player, calculated as the weighted (by minutes played) average of each players position : 1 = PG, 2 = SG, etc. -- ed
Message 1 of 57 , Aug 2, 2004
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Gabe Farkas wrote:
> what is the WT_POS column represent?
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The "average" position for each player, calculated as the weighted (by
minutes played) average of each players "position": 1 = PG, 2 = SG, etc.

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• ... Hash: SHA1 ... No, this is wrong. It s wrong because it favours bench players. Guys like Bowen and Artest (and especially Bowen, because he s older)
Message 57 of 57 , Aug 5, 2004
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 smckibbi@... wrote:

> Great idea. Perhaps the criteria for deciding which swingman is guarding who
> would be the team's overall def points per 100 possessions when the swingman
> is on the court. The one with the lower pts/100 poss is guarding the better
> offensive player.

No, this is wrong. It's wrong because it favours bench players. Guys like
Bowen and Artest (and especially Bowen, because he's older) usually don't
guard the opposing bench's best player; they take a rest when the other
side's coach brings his bench players onto the floor.

You get a guy like Peterson on the Raptors, he's usually on the floor when
the other side's bench is, and usually not when their starters are. Now,
he's a good defender, but his stats are going to get enhanced under this
formula.

Here's a Modest Proposal: Track the overall offensive production per
minute or possession of the opposing team's players that a particular
player defends. Compare that to their offensive production per minute or
possession while he's on the floor. A negative result means a good
defender, a positive result means a bad one, zero means average.
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