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  • wizardskev
    I may not have been clear in my initial post. The issue with Haywood s work habits wasn t an unwillingness to work. He put the time in. The problem was that he
    Message 1 of 21 , Jun 17, 2004
      I may not have been clear in my initial post. The issue with Haywood's
      work habits wasn't an unwillingness to work. He put the time in. The
      problem was that he worked "wrong".

      For example, when he was practicing a basic drop step move, he'd do it
      over and over and over. But, he'd lean back when receiving the pass
      instead of coming to meet the ball. He'd shuffle his feet before
      making the pivot or before bouncing the ball. He'd make a weak
      one-handed dribble instead of a power dribble. He'd lay the ball in
      instead of dunking it. That kind of thing.

      There are other examples too. He'd put the time into practicing the
      moves, but there was no focus on fundamentals, no emphasis on doing it
      right. And he'd screw up in games.

      Ultimately, that's his responsibility; and I was surprised to see such
      sloppy work habits from a Carolina player. Still, virtually every time
      I saw him working, it was with Ewing. Through most of those sessions,
      Ewing barely said a word. It was surprising on a couple levels --
      first, I'd always had active coaches who constantly taught when they
      ran drills; and second, I would have expected Ewing -- a John Thompson
      pupil -- to run a disciplined and precise workout.

      Your point about the Bullets/Wizards not being able to make use of its
      talent is accurate. The Pistons started three former Bullets/Wizards
      -- Hamilton, Ben Wallace and Rasheed. In one sense, it made it easier
      for me to root for them. In another, it was heartbreaking. :(

      --- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Tamada" <tamada@o...>
      > That's a fascinating inside glimpse into the inner workings of a
      team. Probably
      > a lot of that stuff has contributed to the Bullets' continued
      stagnation. Although
      > there are also alternative explanations: e.g. with Haywood's post
      play, is
      > Hubbard a superior coach/teacher, or is it simply a matter of
      Haywood gaining
      > some maturity and realizing that he needed to work to improve his game?
      > Was the non-teaching, arrogant attitude of MJ and Collins a cause of
      the Bullets'
      > lack of wins and lack of improvement, or was it lack of
      coaching/leadership skills
      > period, separate from the abrasiveness issues (some coaches have
      been abrasive
      > but nonetheless successful). Or a lack of player talent for that
      matter, although
      > there have been several examples suggesting that the Bullets have
      had some
      > decent talent, but have been unable to exploit it (both of the
      Detroit Wallaces
      > are former Bullets/Wizards, also there's Chris Webber, and going the
      > direction Mitch Richmond who didn't seem to play as well in
      Washington as
      > he had in Sacramento).
      > --MKT
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: wizardskev [mailto:kevinbroom@r...]
      > Sent: Thu 6/17/2004 12:00 PM
      > To: APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com
      > Cc:
      > Subject: [APBR_analysis] Re: Let's discuss Brendan Haywood...
      > As someone who follows the Wizards closely, Haywood's lack of playing
      > time was baffling. I asked Eddie Jordan about it several times last
      > season, and generally got vague answers about matchups and pace and
      > game flow.
      > I think one reason Haywood didn't play much is that he doesn't catch
      > the ball well -- which is problematic in EJ's Princeton offense. Plus,
      > Eddie preferred to give minutes to Etan because Etan made a better
      > show of playing hard.
      > I talked with Haywood on the last day of the season, and asked him
      > about the playing time. He's normally kind of a goofball, but the lack
      > of playing time BURNS him. There's no way I could publish the stuff
      > he had to say about his coach.
      > The biggest area where Haywood improved last season was in his work
      > habits. I used to watch him "work" with Patrick Ewing, and it was
      > disgusting. Ewing would throw him the ball, and Haywood would make a
      > move, but it was sloppy and slow and utterly pointless. Working with
      > Phil Hubbard, I saw a noticeable change in terms of moving quicker and
      > with more precision. For example, Haywood stopped bringing the ball
      > down below his waist, he stopped travelling when practicing post
      > moves, and he finished the moves with a dunk or a real effort to make
      > the shot. It sounds so basic, but these were real deficiencies.
      > As for the Wizards inability to develop players, this goes back to the
      > 2 years under Collins and MJ. Collins said many times that there
      > wasn't time to "teach" in the NBA. Eddie Jordan and his staff seemed
      > to believe just the opposite. Michael Jordan's decision to be as
      > abrasive, arrogant and insulting as possible didn't help much either.
      > By the second half of his final season, the younger players were in
      > full F*** MJ mode -- which was remarkable considering how much they
      > idolized Jordan before becoming his teammate.
      > I knew the season was lost when I caught up with a young player
      > considered to be "one of Jordan's guys" and asked him what he thought
      > about MJ. He gave me this sidelong look and said, "Maaaan, are you
      > trying to get me in trouble?"
      > --- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com, "wimpds" <wimpds@y...> wrote:
      > > that he may not in the
      > > > future. typically for big men if they don't improve their
      > > turnovers per ball
      > > > possession by the end of their 3rd season (asuuming they've played
      > > significant
      > > > minutes each season, as haywood has) they tend not to over their
      > > entire career.
      > > > there are exceptions, but the majority don't improve much...
      > >
      > >
      > > As someone who's followed Haywood's career since he was a freshman
      > > [side note: I was even his math instructor once], I would be quite
      > > suprised if he proved to be an exception to this pattern. He's
      > > improved over the years, but his game hasn't changed much at all. I
      > > would be shocked if I ever saw him successfully put the ball on the
      > > floor.
      > >
      > > Ben
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