Re: Update to Tendex with Forced Misses and Forced TO's
- Missed shots and missed shot opportunities, from defensive pressure
of all kinds, can be factored into any player's production rating, by
taking the ratio of his team's points allowed and a historic average
(or any other arbitrary standard).
--- In APBR_analysis@y..., "dlirag" <dlirag@h...> wrote:
> In that case, I'd expect people to value forced TO's as much as
> do steals. A few, though, might say that a steal has more fast
> potential than most kinds of forced TO's, making forced TO's
> less valuable than steals. Forcing a miss might be roughly as good
> blocking a shot, but I'm not sure about this one. I think people
> agree more about the similar value of steals and forced TO's than
> they will about blocks and forced misses. As for how these things
> would be factored, I agree that they will be added on to most
> formulas in a straightforward manner. Doug Steele might do a little
> more with them, though, considering that he has four types of
> --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "HoopStudies" <deano@r...> wrote:
> > If we started collecting forced misses and forced turnovers by
> > players in addition to blocks and steals, how would the standard
> > tendex formula be updated? Would they simply be added on? That
> > seems like the logical thing to me. Any other ideas?
> > If I managed to get that info for last year, I'd be curious how
> > would change the rankings of players.
> > Dean Oliver
> > Journal of Basketball Studies
I still don't know what 'standard Tendex' is, but I do have to wonder
how one could possibly collect 'forced misses and forced turnovers',
and particularly I doubt these quantities could be assigned to
Rather, the team defensive strength just naturally contains these
features, and is reflected quite readily in 'points-per-game allowed'.
When your team manages to allow only 90% of a given standard of
points allowed, your own scoring should be factored by 100/90,
relative to that standard.