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RE: [APBR_analysis] Re: Charting Laker games

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  • McKibbin, Stuart
    ... From: deano@rawbw.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:27 PM To: APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com; deano@rawbw.com Subject: [APBR_analysis] Re: Charting
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: deano@...
      Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:27 PM
      To: APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com; deano@...
      Subject: [APBR_analysis] Re: Charting Laker games


      --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "McKibbin, Stuart" <smckibbi@c...> wrote:

      Here's the breakdown for the 14 games. Lakers 421 total FTA's
      consisting of 11 technicals FT (Kobe 8; Richmond 2; poor Joe Crispin 1), 41 "and-1" FT (Shaq 27; Kobe 7; Samaki 3; Medvedenko, Rob Horry, George, Fox 1 each), and 78 Bonus FT (Kobe 22; Shaq 18; Rob Horry 10; Hunter 8; George 6; Richmond 6; BShaw 4; Fox 2; Penberthy 2). Two threepoint shooters were fouled, Hunter was fouled Flagrantly and Richmond was fouled simultaneously as someone else was making a basket. 282 FT's were from normal two-shot shooting fouls.

      282 + 11 + 41 + 78 + (3 + 1) = 416 <> 421

      What did I do wrong? I got the impression that Richmond's foul shot
      on the 3 pt case was only one ft. True?

      Dean, it should be 282 + 11 + 41 +78 + (6 + 2 + 1) = 421
      The three point shooter was fouled twice, the flagrant was a two shot, you got Richmond's right. By the way, in the 14 games the Lakers are only officially credited with 419 FT's because two FT's were disallowed because a Laker player was in the lane too early. I kept them in my numbers because it keeps the number of possessions right.

      I've updated the freethrows to include the latest Dallas and Sacramento games (still missing 1st Utah and Houston games). So now for 16 charted games the breakdown is as follows:

      Kobe 128 total FT's = 8 "and-1's", 8 techs, 24 bonus, 88 shooting
      Fox 21 total FT's = 1 "and-1", 0 techs, 4 bonus, 16 shooting
      George 27 FT's = 1 "and-1", 0 techs, 6 bonus, 20 shooting
      Horry 24 FT's = 1 "and-1", 0 techs, 12 bonus, 8 shooting, 3 three-point shooting
      Hunter 17 FT's = 0 "and-1", 0 techs, 10 bonus, 4 shooting, 3 three-point shooting
      Shaq 188 FT's = 32 "and-1", 0 techs, 20 bonus, 136 shooting
      Richmond 21 FT's = 0 "and-1", 2 tech, 6 bonus, 12 shooting, 1 simultaneous
      Walker 20 FT's = 4 "and-1", 0 techs, 0 bonus, 16 shooting

      Kobe and George were the two that had freethrows attempts disallowed by the refs.

      Mike (msg_53) said: "If Lakers have: 176 pts / 156 OReb
      and Shaq has: 57 pts / 54 OReb
      then
      non-Shaq Lakers: 119 pts / 102 OReb

      That would seem to make Shaq weaker at scoring after an OReb than his
      teammates are?"

      Actually, Mike, the Lakers scored 69 points after 54 Shaq Orebs, and the 102 non-Shaq Orebs yielded 107 points.

      You know, the more I think about it, the Laker efficiency is even better than what I've been telling you. 156 Orebs total, but 13 possessions had two Orebs, and 2 possessions had 3 ORebs. So 156 - (13*1) - (2*2) = 139 possessions that had Orebs.

      176 points/ 139 possessions = 1.27 pt/poss.

      For the opponents, 167 Orebs, but 14 possessions had 2 Orebs, 5 possessions had 3 Orebs, and 1 possession had 5 Orebs. So 167 - (14*1) - (5*2) - (1*4) = 139 possessions that had Orebs.

      Opponents 161 points/139 possessions = 1.15 pt/poss
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