--- In APBR_analysis@y..., bchaikin@a... wrote:
> dean -
> i agree...one stat i'd really like to see compiled by the league is
> "turnovers forced" - a stat for any turnover where a steal is not
> credit for. better yet, what i would like to see is that every time
> turnover is committed but a steal not credited, that a defender be
> credit for a "turnover forced"....
> now you know as well as i do that half or more of all of
> forced" will in actual fact have nothing to do with the defender
> for it, but in the long run patterns will emerge of those players
> indeed force the most turnovers. any turnover that wasn't actually
> just give credit to the defender guarding the player that committed
> turnover at that moment. even a 3 sec call i'd credit a turnover
> the man closest to the player it was called on. zone or no zone
> turnover forced to the player closest. this may not always be easy
> statistician used to crediting assists and such would get the hang
This is one in my spreadsheet. I allow (since I ain't the NBA)
forced TO's to be awarded as halves, too, so that the guy guarding
the man with the ball can get half and the guy who doubles can get
half, for instance. Same thing with forced misses. Very simple, but
very important pieces of info.
I also agree that recording of steals is pretty haphazard. I follow
the game on the internet as I score it and there are always a few
calls that I just don't understand. Sometimes a guy not even in the
play will get a steal. That's the worst. I do think that steals are
often poorly awarded, too. The guy on the ball often forces a bad
pass through pressure, then the guy who picks off the pass was
terribly out of position but gets the steal.
Blocks are another one that I question.
(I noticed last night a pattern in studying the Lakers last season.
Basically their defense picked up significantly in the playoffs. And
I always wondered why. I think I finally identified "who", which
links a little bit to the why. This is for later....)