- --- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com, "schtevie2003 <schtevie@h...>"
>... Regarding the overall talent pool: Here the series has a lot toThe correlation is very rough. The minutes data suggest we are just
> say, and the tentative conclusion that league expansion has
> roughly correlated with expansion in the talent pool accords with
> my prior beliefs.
now getting back to the competitive level that existed in 1966,
before the ABA expansion era.
> All this said, the series you provide does not suggest that "the
> league may be equally competitive in 1955 and in 2003". Of
> course it does when you add the proviso that we drop all
> "peripheral era-dependent artifacts be dropped from
> consideration", but that is just defining the problem away. To my
> mind, those things aren't peripheral; they are central. The
> interesting stuff is the history of the game itself, how it
> how it improved, how rules may have been changed toIt's tempting to say all change is for the good. No one changes
> compensate for perceived advantage by the offense or the
> defense, how the physical form of the athlete and his regimens
> changed, how the available talent pool changed.
rules in order to make the game worse.
What I was suggesting is that while we can say athletes are in better
physical shape these days, the oldtimers should get 'credit' for what
conditions they had to overcome, as modern players get credit for
their workout regimens, etc.
You could plop a physical specimen like Karl Malone into 1955, and
then what? Let him take his nice shoes, his personal trainer,
dieticians -- heck, a private jet. Then what?
You would see a culture clash that would be fodder for a
backtothefuture comedy, I guess. Nothing predictable. He might
dominate Bob Pettit and Dolph Schayes; or the refs might not buy his
flops, and his elbows might earn real retaliation instead of a 1-game
He might run out of healthy food, get tired of being refused lodging,
be abused by fans and possibly shunned by his teammates. These are
only fantasy scenarios. 'Better' doesn't really exist.
I can do more calculations and have knowledge that Leonardo da Vinci
didn't have. Does that make me a better thinker?
A champion race car driver from 1920 who never passed 120 mph should
get credit for dominating his milieu, regardless of whether his
machine can outrun one from 2003.
> By your specification, we would be left with no dynamicThat's debatable, too. The NBA is much more alluring these days. At
> questions at all, as we all know that at any given time (with some
> minor caveats) we know that the best players available and
> willing to play were in the NBA.
some point in the past, guys had to choose between the fun NBA, or
the better-paying factory job.