Re: Dilution, balance, and Bob-bashing
- --- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com, "Mike G <msg_53@h...>"
> What do the following players have in common?: Larry Bird, Kevin
> McHale, Kiki Vanderweghe, Jack Sikma, Bill Laimbeer, Bill Walton,
> Issel, ... of course they are all white American players, from theplayer
> early '80s, and they were all better than any white American
> Would we suppose that in today's increased talent field, that
> Bird would put up numbers no better than Brad Miller's? ThatMcHale
> would be no more of an impact player than LaFrentz is?about,
> I keep coming back to this issue, with deafening silence all
> broken only by occasional questions to my motivation. I wouldlike
> to know what motivates others here to continue ignoring thisI guess you are wondering whether 1) fewer great white players may
mean less quality in the league and 2) why are there fewer great
american white players. there seem to fewer great white players but
i think we need to look this over a little more before we draw any
conclusions. guys like Bird and walton are hall of fame players any
time and they don't come around too often. mchale was great too.
but kiki and issel? they have van horns, and gugliotta who are
asd for deeper question of the american white players disappearing,
i don't know the numbers. but they were historically over
represented in the league. so as the talent pool gets deeper its
stands to reason is that they would be the first to contract in
numbers. there was talk of many token white guys at the end of the
bench to make the leaguge more paltable for white fans (barkley said
this in philly about dave hoppen). it's possible that this no
longer a concern as well. there are still plenty of very good white
players in the last 10 years: (stockton, hornacek, van horn, gugs,
laettner, mullin, the barry boys, price, chapman etc.) I don't
think the fact that kiki and tripucka are gone indicates a loss of
much to be honest with you. you're right that the issue should not
be taboo but i think the answer simply is the talent pool correcting
itself combined with random chance (that no new bird has arisen).
> I particularly enjoyed Rosen's article on the Sonics where hewatched
> one game (one of the worst of the year, for what it's worth) andPut me firmly in the "pompous windbag" camp. The best thing about the
> acted like he knew something about the team. Apparently, Desmond
> Mason can't make a jumper because he had one bad night.
Mason comment, for instance, was that Rosen said the reason Mason
can't make a jumper was his "low release point", which was hilarious
on several levels:
1) Apparently he's never watched Steve Kerr. Or Andrew Toney. Or
Bryce Drew. Or about a hundred other guys who shoot from under their
chin but make everything.
2) Mason's release point isn't low, especially given that he's about
20 feet off the ground when he shoots it.
3) Mason's problem isn't the release point, it's the lack of arc on