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  • Mike Goodman
    For no particular reason, here are the Pistons greatest contributors to their history: 1 Isiah 1090 32.0 .11 35.1 5916 2400 8316 2 Lanier 703
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 30 1:31 PM
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      For no particular reason, here are the Pistons' greatest
      contributors to their history:

      1 Isiah 1090 32.0 .11 35.1 5916 2400 8316
      2 Lanier 703 37.8 .04 44.3 6177 1459 7636
      3 Laimbeer 1050 28.5 .11 26.6 4717 1522 6240
      4 G. Hill 450 38.1 .03 37.6 5078 880 5958
      5 Dumars 1130 25.5 .10 24.6 4202 1396 5598
      6 Foust 445 32.5 .08 32.8 3769 1091 4860
      7 Bing 691 28.8 .03 25.9 4132 568 4700
      8 Vinnie 906 24.3 .11 25.3 3119 1249 4368
      9 Rodman 643 26.7 .13 22.5 3200 992 4192
      10 Yardley 372 30.5 .10 30.8 3180 1007 4187
      11 Howell 408 30.7 .05 24.4 3408 550 3958
      12 Dantley 230 30.3 .17 30.6 2413 1017 3430
      13 DeBusscher 450 26.0 .03 27.5 2771 489 3260
      14 Tripucka 370 27.9 .05 23.2 3240 479 3240
      15 R. Scott 426 26.1 .04 26.2 2688 522 3210
      16 Aguirre 375 25.8 .15 26.0 2163 1041 3204
      17 Salley 554 22.3 .19 23.4 2102 1073 3176
      18 Stackhouse 269 31.1 .03 24.0 2806 302 3108
      19 Shue 469 22.9 .06 23.7 2424 628 3051
      20 T. Mills 487 26.2 .02 21.4 2639 301 2940
    • Jim Hekel
      Why do you think Dave Bing ranks so low. He was one of the greats of the game. I was also surprised that Grant Hill, in just 450 games, ranked ahead of Joe
      Message 2 of 3 , Jun 30 8:13 PM
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        Why do you think Dave Bing ranks so low. He was one of
        the greats of the game. I was also surprised that
        Grant Hill, in just 450 games, ranked ahead of Joe
        Dumars in 1,130 games. Jim Hekel, Rowley, Iowa.

        --- Mike Goodman <msg_53@...> wrote:
        > For no particular reason, here are the Pistons'
        > greatest
        > contributors to their history:
        >
        > 1 Isiah 1090 32.0 .11 35.1 5916 2400 8316
        > 2 Lanier 703 37.8 .04 44.3 6177 1459 7636
        > 3 Laimbeer 1050 28.5 .11 26.6 4717 1522 6240
        > 4 G. Hill 450 38.1 .03 37.6 5078 880 5958
        > 5 Dumars 1130 25.5 .10 24.6 4202 1396 5598
        > 6 Foust 445 32.5 .08 32.8 3769 1091 4860
        > 7 Bing 691 28.8 .03 25.9 4132 568 4700
        > 8 Vinnie 906 24.3 .11 25.3 3119 1249 4368
        > 9 Rodman 643 26.7 .13 22.5 3200 992 4192
        > 10 Yardley 372 30.5 .10 30.8 3180 1007 4187
        > 11 Howell 408 30.7 .05 24.4 3408 550 3958
        > 12 Dantley 230 30.3 .17 30.6 2413 1017 3430
        > 13 DeBusscher 450 26.0 .03 27.5 2771 489 3260
        > 14 Tripucka 370 27.9 .05 23.2 3240 479 3240
        > 15 R. Scott 426 26.1 .04 26.2 2688 522 3210
        > 16 Aguirre 375 25.8 .15 26.0 2163 1041 3204
        > 17 Salley 554 22.3 .19 23.4 2102 1073 3176
        > 18 Stackhouse 269 31.1 .03 24.0 2806 302 3108
        > 19 Shue 469 22.9 .06 23.7 2424 628 3051
        > 20 T. Mills 487 26.2 .02 21.4 2639 301 2940
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      • Mike Goodman
        ... Grant Hill played at superstar level, Dave Bing was merely an allstar, for several years each. Both played for crappy teams, as evidenced by only 3%
        Message 3 of 3 , Jul 1, 2001
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          --- In APBR_analysis@y..., Jim Hekel <jhekel@y...> wrote:
          > Why do you think Dave Bing ranks so low. He was one of
          > the greats of the game. I was also surprised that
          > Grant Hill, in just 450 games, ranked ahead of Joe
          > Dumars in 1,130 games. Jim Hekel, Rowley, Iowa.
          >
          Grant Hill played at superstar level, Dave Bing was merely an
          allstar, for several years each. Both played for crappy teams, as
          evidenced by only 3% playoff time. Bing also did not make good use
          of his playoffs, playing at only 90% of his regular season rate,
          while Hill basically maintained his excellent production.
          At one point in his career, Grant Hill had more triple doubles
          than every other active player combined; and he led his team in
          scoring, rebounding, and assists, 3 or 4 years straight.
          While Bing was a phenomenal scorer for guards in his era, I
          believe he had an eye injury, and other injuries that curtailed his
          prime years. Both he and Bob Lanier, among the best at their
          positions, had major gaps in their minutes.
          The top 4 career Pistons in games played were members of the '89-
          '90 champions.
          As for Joe Dumars, he is probably my favorite Piston. But what is
          sometimes called "the Joe Dumars effect" is that some guys who are
          extremely valuable just don't put up huge numbers. There are efforts
          to measure defensive ability, but I believe one has to go over the
          game film and record defensive stops and such, which is beyond the
          scope of my work. My naive hope is that players such as Dumars get
          more minutes because of their "intangibles", and in the course of
          playing those minutes, they pick up enough points, steals, etc., to
          get most of the credit they are due.
          I think Dumars was the only player who ever regularly slowed
          Jordan. Once Jordan learned to beat Dumars, the world was his.
          Joe did not have great postseasons, after those 2 championships.

          > > G RegSea PO% Playof RS PO T
          > > 1 Isiah 1090 32.0 .11 35.1 5916 2400 8316
          > > 2 Lanier 703 37.8 .04 44.3 6177 1459 7636
          > > 3 Laimbeer 1050 28.5 .11 26.6 4717 1522 6240
          > > 4 G. Hill 450 38.1 .03 37.6 5078 880 5958
          > > 5 Dumars 1130 25.5 .10 24.6 4202 1396 5598
          > > 6 Foust 445 32.5 .08 32.8 3769 1091 4860
          > > 7 Bing 691 28.8 .03 25.9 4132 568 4700
          > > 8 Vinnie 906 24.3 .11 25.3 3119 1249 4368
          > > 9 Rodman 643 26.7 .13 22.5 3200 992 4192
          > > 10 Yardley 372 30.5 .10 30.8 3180 1007 4187
          > > 11 Howell 408 30.7 .05 24.4 3408 550 3958
          > > 12 Dantley 230 30.3 .17 30.6 2413 1017 3430
          > > 13 DeBusscher 450 26.0 .03 27.5 2771 489 3260
          > > 14 Tripucka 370 27.9 .05 23.2 3240 479 3240
          > > 15 R. Scott 426 26.1 .04 26.2 2688 522 3210
          > > 16 Aguirre 375 25.8 .15 26.0 2163 1041 3204
          > > 17 Salley 554 22.3 .19 23.4 2102 1073 3176
          > > 18 Stackhouse 269 31.1 .03 24.0 2806 302 3108
          > > 19 Shue 469 22.9 .06 23.7 2424 628 3051
          > > 20 T. Mills 487 26.2 .02 21.4 2639 301 2940
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