- --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "McKibbin, Stuart" <smckibbi@c...> wrote:
> Kobe Bryant for sure up to 2001. At least that's what the papers,teammates
> and Phil saidLike Dominique, I have him being too efficient to be considered a
ballhog. So maybe I drop the efficient qual, but that lets in a lot
of players. I think it might be a relative thing. Kobe could have
been considered a hog because he always has had someone better to
pass to in Shaq.
> Iverson. I counted Iverson touches in the 2001 Finals, he shot theball 49%
> of the time he touched it and passed 33% of the time. When he hadtrouble
> getting it in the halfcourt sets, he went to the backcourt,advanced the
> ball and ran high pick and roll so there would be zero passes onsome
> possessions. In Al's defense that could very well have been Brown'sscheme.
What happened with the other 16% of possessions? 49% of touches
become shots. That's like a lot of pickup games I play in. Ick.
> Free. McGinnis. Barkley (in Houston). McAdoo in Detroit/Boston/NYK.
> thought Moses and Kevin Willis were ballhogs, it seemed like theynever
> passed the ball back out. Elden. McDyess in Denver. Ticky Burden.Dwight
> Lamar. Fred Carter.No question on Moses and Willis that they had the reps.
I didn't think Barkley was a ballhog in Houston. Maybe elsewhere,
but not Houston.
Perhaps what would be useful is Bob Chaikin's stat for how many
touches a player gets divided into how many shots they take. Though
Bob estimates his number from stats including FGA, it might give