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Re: Tendex and questions

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  • aussievamp2
    ... Tendex ... it is only ... This is a fairly new idea to me, and I have noticed that some people are saying it needs to be adjusted for game pace But if
    Message 1 of 9 , Jul 4 10:30 PM
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      --- In APBR_analysis@y..., bchaikin@a... wrote:
      >
      > >tendex is simple, but may not be realisitc. whatever realistic is.
      Tendex
      > has nothing >it can be compared to in order to say its realistic.
      it is only
      > a rating....
      > opposition one point...


      This is a fairly new idea to me, and I have noticed that some people
      are saying it needs to be 'adjusted for game pace'

      But if you need this factor, can there be a 'gamepacedex'? e.g.
      what a player does to reflect on the pace of the game, using stats,
      so a number that shows addition or subtraction to the total points in
      a game?

      e.g. will a good point guard raise points in general, and a good
      centre lower them? (Mutombo being mentioned a couple of time as
      leaving a team and their total points scored in games going up) and
      what about other positions?
    • aussievamp2
      occur in ... putting it ... plays ... associated ... well ... Michael, you have your own weightings for a formula like this then?
      Message 2 of 9 , Jul 4 10:36 PM
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        occur in
        > non-penalty situations ... of course they do hurt your team by
        putting it
        > closer to the penalty situation. And of course there's three-point
        plays
        > and four-point plays. And offensive fouls are TOs, with their
        associated
        > 1 point cost. But combining them all, the average foul is worth
        well
        > under 1 point, under .4 points for that matter.
        >
        >


        Michael, you have your own weightings for a formula like this then?
      • dlirag
        ... A good defender, I reckon, will tend to lower the overall score if his type of defense doesn t provide any corresponding improvement to his team s offense.
        Message 3 of 9 , Jul 16 1:55 AM
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          --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "aussievamp2" <rnmscott@b...> wrote:

          > e.g. will a good point guard raise points in general, and a good
          > centre lower them? (Mutombo being mentioned a couple of time as
          > leaving a team and their total points scored in games going up) and
          > what about other positions?

          A good defender, I reckon, will tend to lower the overall score if
          his type of defense doesn't provide any corresponding improvement to
          his team's offense.
        • Michael K. Tamada
          ... Also one could imagine that a team s optimal strategies might change after Mutombo leaves the team. Instead of wanting a slow, halfcourt game, the team
          Message 4 of 9 , Jul 16 2:24 AM
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            On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, dlirag wrote:

            > --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "aussievamp2" <rnmscott@b...> wrote:
            >
            > > e.g. will a good point guard raise points in general, and a good
            > > centre lower them? (Mutombo being mentioned a couple of time as
            > > leaving a team and their total points scored in games going up) and
            > > what about other positions?
            >
            > A good defender, I reckon, will tend to lower the overall score if
            > his type of defense doesn't provide any corresponding improvement to
            > his team's offense.

            Also one could imagine that a team's optimal strategies might change after
            Mutombo leaves the team. Instead of wanting a slow, halfcourt game, the
            team might want to start unleashing its greyhounds.

            Also, without Mutombo in there, the opponents may be scoring sooner,
            meaning that Mutombo's former team is getting the ball back sooner, and
            scoring more quickly than when he was in there and making the opponent use
            up 22 seconds of the shot clock.


            --MKT
          • HoopStudies
            ... if ... to ... There is a weak general dependence of pace on defense. Good defense has a slight tendency to also slow pace. It s not a guarantee by any
            Message 5 of 9 , Jul 16 8:39 AM
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              --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "Michael K. Tamada" <tamada@o...> wrote:
              > >
              > > A good defender, I reckon, will tend to lower the overall score
              if
              > > his type of defense doesn't provide any corresponding improvement
              to
              > > his team's offense.
              >

              There is a weak general dependence of pace on defense. Good defense
              has a slight tendency to also slow pace. It's not a guarantee by any
              means. I've always felt that teams should run more with Mutombo in
              the lineup to avoid having to pass him the ball in the halfcourt.

              > Also one could imagine that a team's optimal strategies might
              change after
              > Mutombo leaves the team. Instead of wanting a slow, halfcourt
              game, the
              > team might want to start unleashing its greyhounds.
              >

              In contrast to the way the old Celtics did it with Russell. They ran
              with the shot blocker in there.

              How much of a player's performance is skill vs the strategy of his
              coaching staff? It's particularly difficult to say with specialists
              like Mutombo.

              DeanO
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