599Re: [APBR_analysis] Re: nice methods
- Feb 7, 2002--- HoopStudies <deano@...> wrote:
> --- In APBR_analysis@y..., "mikel_ind" <msg_53@h...>The Bulls appeared to be headed toward 10-12 wins tops
> > >...... The Clips are better with Brand. The
> > > Bulls are better without Brand. So how good is
> Brand? Context
> > > sensitive.
> > "The Bulls are better without Brand" is only half
> a comment.
> > "...than they would be if they still had him"?
> > or "...than they were when they had him"?
> > One might imagine that 10-36 is a better mark than
> 15-67, but the
> > Bulls' average score is 85.7-94.4, compared to
> 87.5-96.6 last
> > No significant change in the scoring.
> > Ron Artest is suddenly a star this year. Brad
> Miller and Marcus
> > Fizer are suddenly serious players. Mercer and
> Hoiberg have
> > off, but Anthony has come along, with Oakley,
> while nobody
> > significant has been dumped.
> > With the coaching change, I would agree "the Bulls
> are better"; but
> > with Brand they might actually be contending.
> Speculation. Would Fizer and Artest and Miller have
> improved with Brand there? (I don't think Artest is
> a star, but
> haven't fully looked at his numbers.) Maybe Brand
> was a negative
> influence, keeping down the hopes of these guys.
> It's a plausible
> story, if just because Brand was getting all the
> The only thing that is clear is that it wasn't that
> hard to make up
> for Brand's loss; they didn't drop to a 4 win
> franchise and it's hard
> to name any 15 win team that got worse by losing its
> "best player".
early in the season. Then two things improved the team
dramatically. Bill Cartwright took over as coach and
Ron Artest returned.
Under Bill they're 7-13 with a 89.8-93.2 point diff.
Hardly a threat to the Lakers (even though they swept
that season series. Figure those odds), but definitely
out of the stinkhole. Artest has played like a star. I
wouldn't go so far as to call him a star just yet. He
plays in such a frenzied style that he can be
extremely erratic. I suspect he has a serious slump in
him before the season ends.
As for Brand, there's little doubt in my mind that
this would be a team on the fringes of the EC playoffs
had Brand stuck around. That said, I have to say that
I do like the deal the Bulls made. A solid, usable PF
is something that's pretty easy to find. Not one of
Brand's calibre, but one that a team can get by with.
Tyson Chandler has a chance to be a special player. It
may take another year or two, but the talent is
obvious. I've don't think I've ever seen a player this
tall who was as athletic.
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