3685Re: [APBR_analysis] Re: Dampier (was Article from _The Economist_)
- Apr 6, 2004--
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From: "Michael Tamada" <tamada@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 5:45 PM
Subject: RE: [APBR_analysis] Re: Dampier (was Article from _The Economist_)
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> From: Michael Tamada
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 2:09 PM
> >Nice, it could be part of a "basketballgraphs.com" website, a counterpart
> >to "baseballgraphs.com". However it looks like your aging curve is based
> >on all the plotted points? I think it'd be better to instead plot 54
> >separate aging curves, and take the average of them ... wait no that
> >lead to the same result that you already got. I guess what I mean is
> >whatever group). Instead we'd want to look at what the typical *change
> >in performance* is for a 30-year old, compared to what he did as a
> >old. And then correcting for the things that MikeG mentioned: big
> Clarifying: so the averages that we'd plot would be based on a player's
> from the year before, rather than averages of their level at that year.
Okay, I uploaded another graph, this time plotting Manley Credits in terms
of percent change from the previous season.
Note: I've changed the Manley Credit stats from season totals to per game
> >Steve Kerr, etc.). But on the other hand, an inside-oriented player who
> >starts getting old has the potential to change his game and increase the
> >dimensions of his offense, specifically by developing an outside shot --
> >can thus prolong his career or slow down his decline. Jordan and Erving
> >certainly did this; dunking less and shooting outside more as they got
> >I think Karl Malone did too, at least I don't remember him taking as many
> >outside shots in his younger days.
> I forgot to mention also how players such as Jack Sikma and Kevin McChale
> started adding 3-pointers to their offensive reportoires in their later
> Oh, and Sam Perkins. And other players such as Terry Cummings and Ron
> seem to extend their careers by stopping from shooting period, and just
> defensive role players.
There is definitely a limit to my approach here -- Manley Credits is a good
approximation of total contributions, but it doesn't really tell us about
changes in playing style or effectiveness in different facets of the game.
If I have time, I'll try to put together more graphs, focusing on
rebounding, shooting accuracy, etc.
BTW Mike, I didn't get the post you quote above. Did I miss anything good?
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