- Dec 6, 2003--- In APBR_analysis@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Oliver" <deano@r...>
> General agreement with statements about usefulness (or lackI would maybe call them "fun stats", because while they don't have
> thereof) of pop stats like triple-double. I don't know if I'd
> phrase it as harshly. Most people really don't care about being
> precisely accurate, so if a triple double usually is a good
> indicator of a good game, it's ok to use it that way.
much analytical value, they're fun/interesting to look at and add to
our enjoyment of the game. If they don't actively detract from
analysis -- and I don't think triple-doubles or 50-point games do,
though "categories" like 20-10 players and guys averaging double-
doubles can -- then I think they're a good thing.
Plus junk stats are quite useful when I'm doing postgame notes. How
many times do you think I've used DeanO's stuff for that?
> One thing that has impressed me is the media's use of OPS inDoes anyone know when stat types started using OPS? It predates my
> baseball. Now there is a complicated concept for traditional media
> to use. It even involves addition! Seriously, it really is more
> about acceptance of a scale (OPS of over 1.0 is very good, for
> example) and acceptance that a number is something real -- not an
> arbitrary mix of numbers. Quarterback rating being a prominent
> exception. I do think the media could end up using TENDEX or PER
> or Floor % or Offensive and Defensive Ratings in a couple years.
interest in baseball statistics, but it seems like it caught on
I think TENDEX -- or at least "NBA.com's exclusive efficiency
rating" -- does have a pretty good chance of catching on. In its
simple, non-pace form, it's extremely simple to understand, and the
league itself tracking it has legitimized it for use by the general
media. (Thus, when I want to get statistical in my work for the
Sonics and Storm, I always turn to it.) I also tend to think that
Lauren Jackson leading the league in efficiency per game and per-
minute, as well as overall, had something to do with her winning
WNBA MVP despite playing for a non-playoff team (and I made sure to
emphasize these facts on the LJ for MVP site).
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