242Re: Similarity Scores
- Sep 16, 2001Personally, I don't ever consider 'position' to be a quantifiable
statistic. Many forwards have been forced to play center; many
forwards are not clearly 'power' or 'small' forwards; many players
are not exclusively guards or forwards; many versatile guards do
plenty of scoring and passing, and rebounding.
The possible fragmenting of these lists is virtually infinite. An
assist from a center is exactly as important as an assist from a
guard. A rebounding guard, a center who gets steals as well as
blocks, all these things make a player unique, or at least
differentiate him from the norm.
The issue of 3-point shooting might be worth looking into. How one
goes about racking up one's scoring totals is of some interest. Then
again, it might invite breaking down points into dunks, layups, etc.
In the end, points are points. A player's scoring may come from
inside moves when he is young, and from outside shots later. The
contribution is still the same.
One thing these similarity indexes do reveal, is that there are
some 'classic' profiles by position. Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq,
Robinson, Ewing, Moses, Gilmore, all averaged 22-28 pts, 12-15 reb, 2-
3 blocks. But the well-rounded centers seem to have enjoyed more
The demands of one's position are somewhat situational. The best
players can usually do whatever is most needed.
--- In APBR_analysis@y..., harlanzo@y... wrote:
> It occurred to me that when comparing players through their
> statistics should we be weighting the comparisons so that some
> statistics are more important based on positions? For example,
> comparing point guards the assist category might be more important
> for weighing similarity than rebound category. Conversely, do we
> really care whether two centers have similar assist numbers if
> points, rebounds, and fg % are similar? I think this sounds
> right with some notable exceptions. The counter argument of course
> is that centers who pass well (a la Walton) or shoot 3s well
> (Laimbeer and Sikma) are unique and the similarity scores will help
> identify players with similar rare skill sets. (To digress, I
> if Jason Kidd and some of the Darrell Walker early 90s seasons are
> comparable). I am beginning to babble but I think that the
> I am asking is whether positional demands should change how we
> statistical categories when we try to apply similarity scores?
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