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1273Re: [APBR_analysis] Re: Ballhogs - Dominique Wilkins

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  • bchaikin@aol.com
    Sep 12, 2002
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      "...for why Wilkins is regarded as a ballhog and McHale isn't..."
         
      who considers dominique wilkins a ballhog? certainly not me! the whole point about my last post was that offensively the difference between bird, english, and wilkins wasn't that much - all 3 were bonafide superstars. sure bird was clearly the better of the 3, but the other two had tendexs of close to .600 for a 10 year stretch. that's a helluva run! bird, magic, jordan - forget these guys because they are clearly in a class by themselves, they aren't just hall-of-famers but clearly the absolute best of their time...

      but english and wilkins were clearly superstars. every game their teams played the opposition tried to stop them and them specifically, because they were by far the top scorers on their teams over that 10 year stretch (granted vandeweghe had a couple better scoring years than english and wilkins had moses malone for a short time)...

      "...Sure, McHale may have shot the ball about as often as Wilkins, at least as
      measured by %shoot.  The difference is when McHale shot, the ball was
      likely to go in!  That makes all the difference between calling a player a
      ballhog vs a bonafide superstar...."


      are you attempting to say here that mchale was a bonafide superstar and wilkins was not? because if you are you have to understand that for a frontcourt player like wilkins to have a high possession factor and also score alot means a ton, a whole lot. a frontcourt player who can handle the ball alot, and is not just a passer (allan bristow, john johnson later in his career in seattle, sam lacey) but is a scorer is a very rare commodity. mchale was a low post player, i think most would agree. wilkins could get the ball anywhere and score...

      wilkins had a lifetime possession factor (touches/min) of about 1.20-1.25. mchale's highest was about 0.90 and about 0.85 for his career. that means over their careers wilkins handled the ball 40% more often than mchale. that's a huge difference. mchales best season he scored 26.1 pts/g, and his career numbers were just under 18 pts/g on excellent 56% shooting. wilkins pertty much scored mchale's career best over his entire career - just under 25 pts/g over his career on, yes, worse shooting. you can't convince me that mchale was the better player, not by a longshot...

      i don't have a lot of respect for the game of a player like allen iverson who scores 30 pts/g on 41% shooting, but he scores and scores big and teams design their defense to stop him and him specifically and most can't stop him. i think that classifies him as a superstar...

      bob chaikin
      bchaikin@...





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