- Hi Brian, In the end it s an alphabet. What s there to interpret? What information we could learn would be related to paleography and the order of theMessage 1 of 16 , Nov 1, 2007View SourceHi Brian,
In the end it's an alphabet. What's there to interpret?
What information we could learn would be related to paleography and the order of the letters. And yet, we can't be certain whether the peculiarity of forms is due to incompetence or the rough surface: it is not a clean sample either way. (I'd go with incompetence either way, myself, as it is certainly possible to format letters properly even on a rough surface.) Likewise the order of letters may be due either to incompetence or an actual different tradition. The options are equivocal. It's safe to say, it seems, that alphabetic writing existed, with the assumption that others were doing it better than whoever scratched this alphabet on a rock. Extending this finding to the existence of scribal schools is unnecessary and not even really indicated, as Yitzhak pointed out, and using it to prove something about the history of a later period is simply anachronistic. I don't think there's much to learn from this Tel Zayit abecedary, if one is being properly cautious and focused on the inscription itself. Sure, it's a neat find, and very interesting to the general history of the alphabet, but it's not really very helpful in and of itself in regard to details. As you say, our options for interpretation are "certainly severely limited."
And thank you, Niels Peter, for the infromation that Karel Van der Toorn's book is out now. I'd been waiting for that.
Kevin P. Edgecomb
- ... The abecedary inscription on the stone is an alphabet, but there is plenty of evidence for other inscriptions having been on it as well-- several fragmentsMessage 2 of 16 , Nov 2, 2007View Source
> In the end it's an alphabet. What's there to interpret?The abecedary inscription on the stone is an alphabet, but there is
> Kevin P. Edgecomb
plenty of evidence for other inscriptions having been on it as well--
several fragments are clearly visible, but only 1 was presented in
BASOR 344. Those are open to interpretation. Also the 2 zigzags are
open to interpretation. Also the placement of the stone in the wall is
open to interpretation. Where it might have been before being placed
in the wall is open to interpretation. Also the placement of the
abecedary opposite the concave side (rather than in it) is open to
I have an extensive review of BASOR 344 in preparation with my own
drawing; I'll let you know when it's online (I'll be donating the
drawing to the evil "W").
George Michael Grena, II
Redondo Beach, CA
- For those interested in ANE paleography, no matter what your geography... And for those who can t get enough, of that fun Zayit-Stone stuff:Message 3 of 16 , Nov 11, 2007View SourceFor those interested in ANE paleography,
no matter what your geography...
And for those who can't get enough,
of that fun Zayit-Stone stuff:
120 miles northwest of San Diego, CA