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Re: [ANE-2] Re: checked flounces

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  • Emily Miller
    Hi Marc- How interesting! Thank you very much, This is quite a provocative piece of text! Emily Miller Bonney California State University Fullerton
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 21, 2011
      Hi Marc-

      How interesting! Thank you very much, This is quite a provocative piece of
      text!

      Emily Miller Bonney
      California State University Fullerton





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      From: MarcC <marc.cooper@...>
      To: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 4:27:33 PM
      Subject: [ANE-2] Re: checked flounces


      There are descriptions of Inanna's dress in Enki and the World Order. You might
      find this translation from ETCSL useful:

      Enki and the world order: c.1.1.3
      "Maiden Inana, how have I disparaged you? How can I enhance you? Amongst the
      ominous ocurrences in the hurly-burly of battle, I shall make you speak
      vivifying words; and in its midst, although you are not an arabu bird"(a bird of
      ill omen), I shall make you speak ill-omened words also. I made you tangle
      straight threads; maiden Inana, I made you straighten out tangled threads. I
      made you put on garments, I made you dress in linen. I made you pick out the tow
      from the fibres, I made you spin with the spindle. I made you colour tufted (?)
      cloth with coloured threads.

      Marc Cooper
      Missouri State

      --- In ANE-2@yahoogroups.com, Emily Miller <buckeyegirl46@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thank you for the reference.
      > I'll take a look at that.
      >
      > Emily Miller Bonney
      > Calif. State University Fullerton.
      >
      >
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      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: Raz Kletter <kletterr@...>
      > To: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 10:02:15 PM
      > Subject: Re: [ANE-2] checked flounces
      >
      >
      > Pirhiya Beck in "The figure of the Ruler" (in the collected papers
      > volume, "Imagery and Representation", 2002) has the material relevant to
      > Palestine, with Syrian-Mesopotamian comparisons. Maybe "tassels" instead of
      > the "checked"?
      > Raz Kletter
      > Un. of Helsinki
      > 2011/2/18 Trudy Kawami <tkawami@...>
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > I am not sure that "checked" is the best descriptions of the colored
      > > flounces (or fringes). "Checked" evokes squares of alternating colors & the
      > > flounced robes of ANE deities in the 2nd mill BCE are not checkered. Divine
      > > garments in that period are anachronistic versions of the
      > > fleeced/flounced/fringed garments of mortals in the 3rd mill BCE, so they
      > > don't have contemporaneous parallels in the real world. Adding to your
      > > problems is the fact that most sculpture was painted but few retain their
      > > pigments. Thus the contemporaneous fountain goddess from Mari has no
      > > indication if her garments had alternating color elements.
      > > I am puzzled that you refer to an Old Syrian glyptic example as a parallel.
      > > Seal were never colored & so there would be no way to know if the
      > > flounces/fringes were of alternating colors. Is that what you meant?
      > > Barber's Prehistoric Textiles might be helpful for the relationship between
      > > textile structure & pattern. I seem to remember checkered Neolithic
      > > fragments from the Swiss lake settlements, but I can't be sure.
      > > Trudy Kawami
      > >
      > > From: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ANE-2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      > > Emily Miller
      > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:21 AM
      > > To: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: [ANE-2] checked flounces
      > >
      > > Hello all-
      > >
      > > I am new to the group and hope someone will be able to help me with this
      > > query
      > > originally posted on Aegaeanet. In the Investiture fresco (Room 106) as
      > > well
      > > as the Audience Hall (Room 132) at Mari suppliant goddesses appear in
      > > checked
      > > flounced robes, i.e. the robes are comprised of seven rows of flounces
      > > which
      > > in turn are arranged in a checked pattern. The only Aegean parallels are
      > > the
      > > faience Votary from the Temple Repositories at Knossos and the pin from
      > > Shaft
      > > Grave III at Knossos. I am trying to find parallels in Near Eastern glyptic
      > > for this checked pattern and so far have only a single Old Syrian example.
      > > Any
      > > suggestions on possible resources for this search would be very much
      > > appreciated.
      > >
      > > Thanks
      > >
      > > Emily Miller Bonney
      > > Associate Professor of Liberal Studies
      > > California State University Fullerton
      > >
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      > Raz Kletter
      > Varsaallika 6a Tallinn 12013 Estonia
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