Re: [ANE-2] Re: how did ancient scribes write?
- On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> ... except there's something wrong with the url in the link -- it breaksTo deal with discontinuous (broken over two or more lines) URLs, first
> between the # and the !, and copy-pasting the whole thing into ther box
> deletes the business end of it and I get a log-in-to-facebook page.
copy the first part of the URL (the first line) and paste it in the
location box of your browser. Then go back and copy the next part of the
URL (the next line) and paste it at the end of the previous part in the
browser's location box. Repeat until the entire URL is in the browser's
location box and then hit the go button. If you copy-paste the entire
thing, you will copy-paste a carriage return and the browser will try to
find the URL up to the point of the carriage return.
On the position of the stylus for writing cuneiform tablets, I have
collected a few illustrations and uploaded them to the groups Photo page
The wall painting from Tell Ahmar shows the correct position of the
stylus. Note the difference of the position of the stylus and of the
pen/brush being used by the beardless scribe to write on leather. The
shaft of the stylus comes out under the hand on the right side of the hand
after having crossed the palm; the shaft of the pen/brush comes out on the
left side of the hand passing between the thumb and the forefinger just as
one would hold a pen or pencil.
The modern illustrations show the right and wrong way to hold the stylus.
How much of the stylus protrudes is probably a matter of personal
preference, but certainly enough to keep the fingers clear of the surface
of the tablet while allowing the writer to position the writing face
accurately. When I write I generally have about half an inch of stylus
protruding. The forefinger rests on the edge of the stylus opposite the
writing face, making the stylus essentially an extension of the
forefinger. This gives the writer better control of the positioning of
the writing face and allows the writer to apply just enough pressure to
create an impression of the proper depth. How much pressure is needed
depends on the consistency of the clay, but usually very little is needed.
For most tablets (barring large, multi-column tablets), the tablet was
held in the left hand the stylus in the right. The direction of the
stylus was controlled by movement of the wrist and forearm, not by
switching the grip on the stylus, which remained constant. The tablet
would also be rotated with the wrist to make it easier to align the stylus
with the tablet for wedges of different orientations.
> >From: Charles J <cejo@...>
> >To: ANEemail@example.com
> >Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 4:20:55 PM
> >Subject: [ANE-2] Re: how did ancient scribes write?
> >It does not matter that you don't keep ANE-2 messages Peter. Scroll
> >down to the bottom of this (or any) ANE-2 message and follow the
> >"Messages in the Topic Link", and there it is.
> >By now you have heard from Bob, with whose comment I agree. But I also
> >note the fine job Theo Van Den Hout does even though he holds the
> >stylus that funny way!
> >-Chuck Jones-
> >Upper East Side, NY.
> >--- In ANEfirstname.lastname@example.org, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...> wrote:
> >> No idea. I don't keep ANE messages, so i can't go look at it. If it
> >> shows the scribe fleetly doing no more than touching the stylus to
> >> the surface, exerting no pressure, and achieving the different angles
> >> by finger movement only, then it's "right."
- Without reviving the entire discussion, the CDLI has just produced a video which is relevant to this topic:
--- In ANEemail@example.com, Jim West <jwest@...> wrote:
> list folk may enjoy this demonstration video (and might even find it
> useful for students)
> via chuck jones on facebook.
> Jim West, ThD
> Petros, TN