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  • Graham Hagens
    ... ... ... ... Pliny also compared these Essenes to a similarly Utopian Therapeutae community near Alexandria. No scholars ancient of
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      -- In ANE-2@yahoogroups.com, Jim West <jwest@...> submitted this from Rachel Elior:

      > ...to briefly summ up what is written about the Essnes and to
      >

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      > The Essenes were first introduced by Philo (d. 50 CE), a first century
      > Jewish scholar who lived in Alexandria. Philo was interested in the
      > ideas of the Stoa and told his readers that there were more than 4,000
      > Essenes (Essaioi) living in villages throughout the Land of Israel. He
      > He further noted their love of God, their
      > concerns with piety, honesty, morality, philanthropy, holiness,
      > equality, freedom, and the importance of communal life. He added that

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      > It seems to me that this is a description of an ideal society in Utopia
      > that Philo had imagined, and not a real society in the land of Israel in
      > the first century CE. Pliny and Josephus were fascinated with this ideal
      > of a holy community t

      > Why should we accept Josephus's evidence, which was based on Philo's
      > non-historic description of an ideal community of thousands of people
      > and was written in the last two decades of the first century CE, 250
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      > the first century, about peaceful celibates who lived ideal lives in a
      > Utopia where the expression of anger, lust, greed or desire, and luxury


      Pliny also compared these Essenes to a similarly 'Utopian' Therapeutae community near Alexandria.

      No scholars ancient of modern have doubted their existance, including early Christian commentators such as Ps. Dionysius who were intrigued by their practices.

      Graham Hagens
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