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9145RE: SV: [ANE-2] Qeiyafa inscription 'ALT`S

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  • victor
    Nov 2, 2008
      I must take issue with Ariel’s comment here about the Israeli school system and the average Israeli’s knowledge of Hebrew. Many years ago I tacked a sign on an office computer reading “Lo tiga` bammahshev!” (Thou shalt not touch the computer!), rather than the expected “al tiga bammahshev”, and wouldn’t you know it if our department secretary didn’t try to correct it. Obviously she is ignorant of the Ten Commandments. Fact of the matter is that prohibitive commands are not expressed with lo but with al. Ariel, do you tell your children “lo tesaheq barehov”, or “al tesaheq barehov”?

      Victor Hurowitz



      From: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ANE-2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ariel L. Szczupak
      Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:01 PM
      To: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: SV: [ANE-2] Qeiyafa inscription 'ALT`S

      At 01:38 PM 11/2/2008, Niels Peter Lemche wrote:

      >Either you are pulling our legs or you have to do some reading of
      >the Hebrew Bible. In the first case nothing to say, in the last case
      >the Decalogue is in Exod 21 and Dtn 5.
      >Shouldn't be necessary to say this

      I did put a smiley there ...

      More in general, everyone who has gone through the Israeli education
      system, even in its present sorry state, would know that the
      prohibitive commandments start with "L)" (/lo/), not with ")L" (/al/).

      As for people using translations, it's always a good idea to check
      the Strong numbers of the actual words used in specific passages (and
      there are plenty of web sites which provide those). That would reduce
      confusion between, e.g., ")L" (Strong 408) and "L)" (Strong 3808).

      But I do have to accept blame for not adding a smiley to my last
      sentence in that message, ")L T($N" referring to the well known
      addiction of Iron Age youth, smoking olive pits in bongs. :) <--- smiley.

      >Niels Peter Lemche
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      >Emne: RE: [ANE-2] Qeiyafa inscription 'ALT`S
      >At 09:49 AM 11/2/2008, victor wrote:
      > >There may be some ‘al ta`aseh but NOT in the Decalologue! Genesis
      > >22:12 which you refer to is not in the Ten Commandments.
      >Of course not. We all know the decalogue is in the Jacob & ladder
      >story, not the Abraham/Isaac one. [ :) ]
      > >BTW, a very quick look at Mandelkern gives me only two more cases:
      > >al ta`asu et hannebalah hazot in Judges 19:23 and al ta`aseh et
      > >hannebalah hazot in II Sam 13:12. Interesting! (although I’m
      > >checking very quickly)


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