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9023RE: [ANE-2] Re: High Priest sarcophagus/Caiphas

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  • Stern, Richard H.
    Oct 9 12:20 PM
      Joe, the marriage custom I referred to was strictly kosher not Islamic.
      In the first century, it was common for kohanim to marry daughters of kohanim (or levites) because their father and mother had already had their pedigrees certified for 3 generations, making it unnecessary to review that of their daughters. (The 3 generation rule is discussed extensively in Jeremias, Jerusalem at the Time of Jesus, along with other descent purity rules.)
      By marrying the daughter of a kohen, a kohen could be sure of two things: (1) the wife had been brought up in a household that made her already familiar with domestic rules governing kohanim; (2) her descent on both sides for 3 generations had already been investigated and ok'd (at the time of the marriage of her father and his enrollment as a kohen). This descent status corresponds to what Ashkenazim used to term a "double koin" and considered to be desirable for unexplained reasons. (You don't see many of them any more. I have known only one.)

      Best regards.

      Richard H. Stern
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      As for marriage custom I think that you are confusing this with the Islamic custom of marrying within the extended family whereas this was not a Jewish custom and those gathering the remains for re-internment a year later were Jews and not Greeks.
      Joe Zias www.joezias.com

      Science and Antiquity Group - Jerusalem
      Jerusalem, Israel

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      From: Stern, Richard H. <RSTERN@...>
      Subject: RE: [ANE-2] Re: High Priest sarcophagus/Caiphas
      To: ANE-2@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:18 PM

      In blaming this on the wives (harking back to the women who reviled Jeremiah in Egypt about how well off they were until his lot made them stop paying respect to Asherah), you should take into account that many or most of these wives were themselves the daughters of kohanim, given the custom of making sure of the propriety of wife lineage by marrying the daughter of a kohen (or at least a levite). Doesn't that make it more improbable that priests' wives were backsliders? As for the Greek bone gatherer, why should he care?

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      Richard H. Stern

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      Subject: Re: [ANE-2] Re: High Priest sarcophagus/ Caiphas

      Jim West wrote

      I'd like to hear more about this pagan custom (coins in the mouth after death)  and its place in Jewish practice.

      I've never seen any research on this topic however from time to time we would find small coins in Jewish tombs and in one occasion (Jericho/ Smith-Hachlili) inside the cranium. The latter case received quite a bit of unwarranted attention by the pro-Turin Shroud folks as they claimed that they could see coins  from none other than Pontius Pilatus  on the shroud and 'as by custom they were placed on the eyes of the decease prior to burial.' This was never a Jewish custom in antiquity and placing the coins of the person responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus sounds more like Monty Python than anything else. They were not amused.

      When coins were found in Jewish tombs we always, prior to this find' believed that they simply fell out of someone's pocket in times of burial however these two specific cases, one in particular stuck to the palate of the woman, argue for a folk belief amongst some Jews that when death comes it just may not hurt to place a coin in the mouth of the deceased to help him/her to pay the boatman in order to cross the river Styx. I wouldn't call it a custom, more like abherent folk behavior  in  times of death.

      Joe Zias


      > There were two ossuaries with the family name Caiphas, one Joseph son

      > of ....and the second bearing only the family name Caiphas

      > Unfortunately, religious fanatics were stoning us during the

      > excavation and we were eventually forced to abandon the excavation,

      > though we were fortunate to take the ossuaries to the museum for

      > examination. One interesting fact though glossed over by many is that

      > I, working alongside Ronnie Reich the excavator, found a coin in

      > situ in the palate of one of the woman in an ossuary. Seems she was

      > 'covering all her bets' with this Pagan custom and in retrospect this

      > seems to have been for me personally, one of the more hypocritical

      > customs observed due to the fact that this was the family of the High

      > Priest. Little bit of back sliding it seems. Later I spoke to David

      > Flusser about this and he asked if it was male of female, when I told

      > him it was an adult female, he simply shrugged as if to say, I'm not

      > all that surprised.


      > Joe



      Jim West, ThD

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