12133Yau and Yah in the wilderness
- Jan 27, 2010David,
Can I try the short answer: the mountain was a place of pilgrimage
(the prophet Eliyahu went there for a mystical tune-up, in the
cavethat is there at the top), and nowadays it is for tourism (a guide
who takes people there is my informant, sending me the photographs);
the story says that they moved on from there.
The one down south in the Peninsula is hot, too; but when I walked to
the top of it on a January morning I felt freezing cold.
The Y is only a stroke (for an arm) but the H has to be a stick figure
with arms and legs; they are examples of writing, Late Bronze Age,
saying YH, and also EL, and ShS (Shasu?).
And this one:
Y B S ` N K H
"The wellspring has dried up here" (?)
(But shouldn't it be YShBT, -t for feminine `ayin? Maybe it was a
My guide tells me there are no springs around there. Precisely. That's
why they put the sign up.
Massey University, NZ
On 28/01/2010, at 10:32 AM, David Hall wrote:
> What makes you think Har Karkom is the "true Mount Horeb/Sinai?"
> This place in the southern Negev is quite desolate. Parts of the
> Negev from Beersheeba to the south were found to contain EB
> settlements, but not LBA settlements, except for the Egyptian mining
> areas north of Eilat at Timnah Park. Studies of the Sinai did not
> find much in terms of LBA remains except along the northern coastal
> road named "The Way of Horus," and at the turquiose mines in the
> south at Serabit al-Khadem. Petroglyphs have also been found in
> Northern Arabia, but it is difficult to date them. Squiggles on
> stone might easily be interpreted as Y_ and Yahwistic, but there
> were no libraries found there or records to show the roads by which
> the artists wandered or when they lived there. If you are to take
> Exodus literally you would find Israel baked and boiled their
> manna. The remains of charcoal from campsites in the Sinai have not
> yet identified LBA
> campsites in areas thought to have been visited by the Israelis
> including the ruins at Kadesh Barnea near Ain Kadeis.
> David Q. Hall
> Falls Church, Virginia
> From: Brian Colless <briancolless@...>
> To: ANEfirstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 7:03:12 AM
> Subject: [ANE-2] Re: Yau in Sealand personal names
> Bjarte, this is very timely. It so happens that I have spent my day
> (though it was not what I had intended to do when I got out of bed)
> considering the evidence concerning the Shasu of Yhw, and examining my
> collection of inscriptions from the Negev, Arava, and Timna.
> Most pertinent to this matter of the deity YW/YH are the rock
> inscriptions from Har Karkom (the true Mount Horeb/Sinai), and I will
> take this opportunity or recording for my own use what I have noticed.
> #2 examples of YH on stones (an arm [yad] and a jubilater [hll], in
> each case standing on hands), written sinistrograde (R-L)
> # YH (with H upright) on a stone, to the left of a robed figure
> standing inside a shrine (unless the half-circle is a halo);
> remarkably this rock is among a group situated near an area that has
> been intentionally cleared, and has been suggested as the site of the
> Tabernacle (and if you know the right size for the cubit, it will fit
> perfectly there, as the first temple does on the Jerusalem Mount at
> the Dome of the Rock).
> Recently I reported another stone I have seen in a photograph, which
> has ' (ox) L (crook) Sh (sun) S (fish), presumably signifying EL (God)
> and ShaSu people.
> I have also been reading on the web (with a break to go to the cinema
> to see NOODLE, in Hebrew and Chinese, and hardly understood a word of
> either language at that speed) the theories of James R. Harris on the
> Old Negev language and script; he also finds YH there but not the same
> as my examples, and his readings of the inscriptions in the Sinai
> mines are quite different from mine; but having established to his own
> satisfaction what the signs of the Old Negev alphabet were, he then
> takes us to places like Utah and Mexico, to find YH among their
> petroglyphs, and on Olmec seals (*The Name of God: From Sinai to the
> American Southwest).
> I mention this because I am going to release a Canaanite inscription
> that seems to establish that the Phoenicians did cross the Atlantic,
> but I doubt that they brought the god YH with them, though they did
> carry the art of logo-syllabic writing (which they had invented by
> 2300 BCE, and which they had already passed on to the Cretans and the
> By the way, one of the actresses in the movie has the name Anat, and I
> have been trying to establish when the goddess`Anat first reached
> Egypt (just before the Hyksos took over the Delta, I redd today); she
> is in the Wadi el-Hol graffiti, you know.
> Brian Colless
> On 27/01/2010, at 10:45 PM, Bjarte Kaldhol wrote:
> > Dear list,
> > In Stephanie Dalley's edition of 474 tablets from the Sch�yen
> > Collection
> > (CUSAS Vol. 9, CDL Press, 2009), she identifies two Akkadian names,
> > �R-ia-�
> > (Arad-Yau), and �-l�-ia-� (Ili-Yau) whose second part is the West
> > Semitic
> > divine name Yau. At this time (16th century) Yau/Yahweh "would be
> > god of
> > Midian and Edom ... which one may connect with MBA/LBA cities at
> > Qurayya ...
> > and Tayma ... It may perhaps be deduced that there was a south-
> > western god
> > Yau who became assimilated into Babylonia at this period, perhaps
> as a
> > hypostasis of the storm god Adad, so that the divine name was used
> > with
> > Akkadian elements ..." (Dalley, p. 72). Yau is also attested in a
> > (later)
> > Kassite name from Nippur.
> > Best wishes,
> > Bjarte Kaldhol
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