11859SV: SV: [ANE-2] 7th century Judaism or YHWHism
- Dec 30, 2009It is all based on the Old Testament. Noth has a long introductory chapter on the names of the tribes of Israel. He -- like de Vaux -- reckons Judah to have been originally a place name. And because of his authority, it has been generally accepted, although no longer discussed.
Niels Peter Lemche
Fra: ANEfirstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:ANEemail@example.com] På vegne af William D. Tallman
Sendt: den 31 december 2009 08:06
Emne: Re: SV: [ANE-2] 7th century Judaism or YHWHism
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:42:37PM +0100, Niels Peter Lemche wrote:
> It is an anachronism, before the Hellenistic Age. It is a left-over
> from the days when the biblical history of Israel's past as the twelve
> tribes migrating the desert, storming the land of Canaan, and settling
> there as a nation of twelve tribes was still au courant.
> When Sennacherib refers to Hezekiah, it is a the "Judean", often
> translated the "Jew", but hardly meaning more than "the man from (the
> landscape/state) of Judah.
> Niels Peter Lemche
In D.B. Redford: "Egypt, Canaan, and Israel in Ancient Times", Princeton
University Press, 1992, p 295, is this sentence:
"Kenites, Yerahmeelites, Calebites, Othnielites, and others constituted
the population of the rugged country called _Har Yehuda_, "the mountain
(district) of the gorge(s)."
The citations are M. Noth, _The History of Israel_ (London, 1959),
56-58; E. Lipinsky _VT 23_ (1973), 380-381; R. de Vaux, _The Early
History of Israel_ (Philadelphia, 1978), 547.
I don't have these citations available to check, so I can only suppose
that they make the same assertion. Anyone clarify this for me?
The term _Har Yehuda_ is apparently a proper noun. _Har_ is (loosely?)
translated as "mountain" or "mountain range/region/district(?)"; is
_Yehuda_ then the Hebrew(?) word for "gorge(s)"? If not, then is there
an etymological connection?
If so, then the _Yehuda(i?)_ could be construed as "(the people from)
the gorges", one might suppose. I'm well aware that there is a hugely
powerful tacit assumption that the proper noun is a "Biblical term", and
therefore is exempt from legitimate question. That said, might there be
some support for this conjecture?
Thanks for reading.
William D. Tallman
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