Re: [ALPA_Forum] Re: SB 375 Conference - notes
- Steve and Steve - This is one for us all to discuss face to face at a meeting. Somehow email isn't giving the discussion the depth and context it needs. I value both of you very highly and hope we discuss all of this in person where the nuances can come out.JeffOn Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, <slevy@...> wrote:
You are completely out of your element here. It is as if I were giving technical advice on density, urban planning and global warming.
I have tried several times to give you a polite heads up that you are in over your head. I asked a technical question and you responded with some kind of ad hominem political comments.
That “fear of their jobs” rant is insulting to staff and pure speculation as is “paid by Exxon”. You are beginning to sound like the hateful people on Town Square.
If this is the way ALPA members want to be represented, I am happy to step aside.
ALPA members, please let me know.
From: ALPA_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ALPA_Forum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steveraneyc21
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: [ALPA_Forum] Re: SB 375 Conference - notesSteve L,
It's very hard to speak for PA staff, especially when they work in fear
of their jobs. That being said, few planning staffers with college
degrees are not "progressive" - it's hard to argue against smart growth
unless you're paid by Exxon to do so (Reason Foundation & Cato
Institute). I'd characterize staff as quiet and neutral with whiffs of
School board member Melissa Baten-Caswell (MBC) showed a willingness to
problem solve. She thought about the impact of new housing that
generates students and, thinking of the elementary schools with the most
capacity, suggested that it was less worse to put student-generating
houisng on Cal Ave compared to Univ Ave. I'd characterize MBC as
open-minded and not rabidly opposed.
Maybe there's some reason for optimism. There's no overt move to scuttle
the housing element.
- Steve R
--- In ALPA_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <slevy@...> wrote:
> You have pushed the case that housing can pay fiscally in PA.
> Do you know what the position of city or school staff is? It seems a
> case to convince anyone of unless staff is either neutral or