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RE: [AAHistoryLovers] Counting Members 1993 vs 2006

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  • ny-aa@att.net
    Art s very thorough reply in item 3740 gave reasons why groups might be undercounted. This included changes in how various types of groups, meetings, and
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      Art's very thorough reply in item 3740 gave reasons why groups
      might be undercounted. This included changes in how various
      types of groups, meetings, and gatherrings were and were not
      counted at various times. A significant cause of undercounting
      was that not all groups chose to be registered with GSO.

      http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/3740

      Besides those reasons for groups not being registered with GSO,
      I add intergroups. In some cities, most AA services are provided
      by an intergroup or central office. Groups make sure they are
      known to the intergroup because that's what it takes to be on
      the local meeting list. Many members and groups are not aware
      that there is NO connection between registering with an intergroup
      and being known to GSO.

      The general service structure of districts and delegate areas
      may be unknown in some places. Or some groups stay out of what
      they call the "politics" of districts and areas. If they don't
      have a GSR then they don't have a voice in the overall policies
      of Alcoholics Anonymous and that's just fine with them.

      The uncounted groups are offset to a small extent by groups that
      are counted more than once. The old group records systems at GSO
      only allowed one meeting place for a group. If one real home
      group met in a church on Monday and a firehouse on Wednesday and
      a school on Friday and a different church on Saturday, they had
      to have four different Group Serial Numbers for all of those to
      be listed. Sometimes they added a suffix to their group name and
      sometimes they just gave up fighting the records-keepers and
      used a totally different name for each location. So one home
      group and, perhaps, its members would be counted more than once.

      The new "Delegate Area Application" is a "relational database"
      and has provision for one group to list multiple meeting places.
      Transition started in 2003. However, that provision is not widely
      used. Groups already listed under multiple names are unlikely
      to change. Using that feature is inconvenient and is not even
      understood by some area registrars. The New Group Registration
      Form still does not provide for a group to register with more
      than one meeting location.
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