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  • martincoombsuk
    Hi I have just uploaded pictures in the album WLR of my first 7mm narrow gauge layout. I volunteered the layout for my clubs exhibition, at the time, over 18
    Message 1 of 11 , Jan 29, 2007
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      Hi
      I have just uploaded pictures in the album 'WLR' of my first 7mm narrow gauge layout.
      I volunteered the layout for my clubs exhibition, at the time, over 18 months away, no
      trouble I thought!
      Then, 3 months before the exhibition, "you have remembered your layout is due to appear at
      the June exhibition, haven't you martin?", I was asked.
      Whoops, HELP.
      With the assistance of 3 club members, we met a couple of times each week at my shed for
      modelling sessions, with much burning of the midnight oil and homework projects to take
      away. We managed to transfer the bare boards into a reasonably presentable railway to
      exhibit. All the buildings were scratch built, using various methods. The stock is mainly kit
      built (this was already made before April), with lots more on the work bench stil to dol.
      The layout ran well all weekend, with just one problem with a computer cable that did not
      like the current with DCC all day.
      There is still loads of detail to add to keep me busy for some while yet.
      My thanks go to Ken, Mike and Paul who helped build, transport and exhibit the layout with
      me. There is nothing like a deadline to get things done.

      Martin
    • Paul Martin
      On Saturday 20th December the Trent Valley Group of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association hosted an open day in Mickleover, Derby, UK. The idea of the day is not to
      Message 2 of 11 , Jan 29, 2007
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        On Saturday 20th December the Trent Valley Group of the 7mm Narrow Gauge
        Association hosted an open day in Mickleover, Derby, UK.

        The idea of the day is not to run it like an exhibition but to encourage
        people to have a go. To that end we had a couple of small layouts present, a
        DCC display/demo, the groups main layout, Henmore Dale, specialist sales
        stands and a number of demonstrators keen to show how they model and to
        discuss ideas.

        The origins of this now annual event lie in the simple fact that the Henmore
        Dale Light railway has now grown to such a size that we have to rent a hall
        to assemble it all.

        The day was a success with more than 60 visitors attending. The modest door
        charge more than covered the hall rent and the money from teas and coffees
        suggest that many enjoyed a drink and a chat.

        So others can see what went on I have created a webpage with info and links
        to two photo albums from the day.

        This can be found here
        www.ngtrains.com/tvg2.htm

        We would be more than happy to answer any questions the pictures may prompt
        and we will be doing it again next January.

        Paul Martin
        Trent Valley Group - Humber division
      • Frank Sharp
        Paul, Just a word of thanks to Stephen for taking the pictures, and to yourself for going to the trouble of posting them on your web site. If you don t mind
        Message 3 of 11 , Jan 29, 2007
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          Paul,



          Just a word of thanks to Stephen for taking the pictures, and to yourself
          for going to the trouble of posting them on your web site. If you don't mind
          leaving them on for a while, perhaps our editor could post the link in
          Narrow Lines for anyone (foolish enough) not (to be) on the e-group.

          For those who didn't come, it is I think a fair reflection of the day, even
          if it goes slightly over the top on my scantily clad females. We obviously
          now know where Stephen's interests lie..........Somewhere near mine perhaps.



          Odd your comment with the map of Henmore about someone remembering your
          fictitious railway. Some years ago I was looking at the earth works for the
          railway that Lord Leverborough intended to build on the Outer Hebrides.
          Earthworks were as far as it got, but some local stopped his car and came to
          tell me what he remembered of the railway running. I would guess that he was
          60 at most, this was 2000, and the project was abandoned by his executors as
          soon as Leverborough died, sometime in the early 1920's I think.



          Frank



          P.S. you might have put one picture through Photoshop and closed my shirt!







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        • Vincent Bradley
          Martin, Thanks for sharing. An excellent start but then are they ever really done? It is always amazing to see how much a group can accomplish with a
          Message 4 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
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            Martin,
            Thanks for sharing. An excellent start but then are they ever really done?
            It is always amazing to see how much a group can accomplish with a deadline.
            Vincent Bradley, 1707

            -----Original Message-----
            From: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:7mmnga@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
            martincoombsuk
            Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:15 PM
            To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [7mm NGA] My first 7mm narrow gauge layout

            Hi
            I have just uploaded pictures in the album 'WLR' of my first 7mm narrow
            gauge layout.
            I volunteered the layout for my clubs exhibition, at the time, over 18
            months away, no
            trouble I thought!
            Then, 3 months before the exhibition, "you have remembered your layout is
            due to appear at
            the June exhibition, haven't you martin?", I was asked.
            Whoops, HELP.
            With the assistance of 3 club members, we met a couple of times each week at
            my shed for
            modelling sessions, with much burning of the midnight oil and homework
            projects to take
            away. We managed to transfer the bare boards into a reasonably presentable
            railway to
            exhibit. All the buildings were scratch built, using various methods. The
            stock is mainly kit
            built (this was already made before April), with lots more on the work bench
            stil to dol.
            The layout ran well all weekend, with just one problem with a computer cable
            that did not
            like the current with DCC all day.
            There is still loads of detail to add to keep me busy for some while yet.
            My thanks go to Ken, Mike and Paul who helped build, transport and exhibit
            the layout with
            me. There is nothing like a deadline to get things done.

            Martin



            This group is:
            1 - for people interested in modelling narrow gauge railways in 7mm:1ft
            scale or thereabouts
            2 - not restricted to members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association although
            membership of said organisation is thoroughly recommended
            3 - moderated by current serving members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association
            committee
            Yahoo! Groups Links
          • Roy Wood
            Good stuff Martin I really like the surface of the water . You have also managed to build a believable quay at which your ship could actually approach and tie
            Message 5 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
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              Good stuff Martin
              I really like the surface of the 'water'. You have
              also managed to build a believable quay at which your
              ship could actually approach and tie up! Well done
              regards
              Roy Wood
              --- martincoombsuk <martin.coombs@...> wrote:

              > Hi
              > I have just uploaded pictures in the album 'WLR' of
              > my first 7mm narrow gauge layout.
              > I volunteered the layout for my clubs exhibition, at
              > the time, over 18 months away, no
              > trouble I thought!
              > Then, 3 months before the exhibition, "you have
              > remembered your layout is due to appear at
              > the June exhibition, haven't you martin?", I was
              > asked.
              > Whoops, HELP.
              > With the assistance of 3 club members, we met a
              > couple of times each week at my shed for
              > modelling sessions, with much burning of the
              > midnight oil and homework projects to take
              > away. We managed to transfer the bare boards into a
              > reasonably presentable railway to
              > exhibit. All the buildings were scratch built, using
              > various methods. The stock is mainly kit
              > built (this was already made before April), with
              > lots more on the work bench stil to dol.
              > The layout ran well all weekend, with just one
              > problem with a computer cable that did not
              > like the current with DCC all day.
              > There is still loads of detail to add to keep me
              > busy for some while yet.
              > My thanks go to Ken, Mike and Paul who helped build,
              > transport and exhibit the layout with
              > me. There is nothing like a deadline to get things
              > done.
              >
              > Martin
              >
              >
              >
              > This group is:
              > 1 - for people interested in modelling narrow gauge
              > railways in 7mm:1ft scale or thereabouts
              > 2 - not restricted to members of the 7mm Narrow
              > Gauge Association although membership of said
              > organisation is thoroughly recommended
              > 3 - moderated by current serving members of the 7mm
              > Narrow Gauge Association committee
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
            • Stephen Dee
              Thanks for posting the photos for the day. Looking back to the event two years ago, I see a certain layout has gone up market from the Laughing Brewery to
              Message 6 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
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                Thanks for posting the photos for the day.



                Looking back to the event two years ago, I see a certain layout has gone "up
                market" from the "Laughing Brewery" to "McMicheals Distillery" see:

                http://www.nettrams.net/7mmNGA/20050115LaughingBrewery.htm



                Stephen Dee, Shepshed, Leicestershire

                7mm NGA member 473

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                From: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:7mmnga@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                Paul Martin
                Sent: 30 January 2007 00:19
                To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com; On30conspiracy@yahoogroups.com;
                On30@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [7mm NGA] Trent Valley Group Open Day



                So others can see what went on I have created a webpage with info and links
                to two photo albums from the day.

                This can be found here
                www.ngtrains.com/tvg2.htm






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              • ianj0trains
                Martin, Congratulations, it looks great. Could you please answer a few questions about it for me, 1/ The track appears hand laid, code used and source ? 2/
                Message 7 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
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                  Martin,

                  Congratulations, it looks great. Could you please answer a few
                  questions about it for me,
                  1/ The track appears hand laid, code used and source ?
                  2/ What are the total dimensions, and the dimensions of the sceniced
                  section ?
                  3/ I can't see a break, does the sceniced section get transported as
                  one unit ?

                  Thanks a lot

                  Ian J
                  Melb, Aust.

                  --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, "martincoombsuk" <martin.coombs@...>
                  wrote:
                  >
                  > Hi
                  > I have just uploaded pictures in the album 'WLR' of my first 7mm
                  narrow gauge layout.
                  > I volunteered the layout for my clubs exhibition, at the time,
                  over 18 months away, no
                  > trouble I thought!
                  > Then, 3 months before the exhibition, "you have remembered your
                  layout is due to appear at
                  > the June exhibition, haven't you martin?", I was asked.
                  > Whoops, HELP.
                  > With the assistance of 3 club members, we met a couple of times
                  each week at my shed for
                  > modelling sessions, with much burning of the midnight oil and
                  homework projects to take
                  > away. We managed to transfer the bare boards into a reasonably
                  presentable railway to
                  > exhibit. All the buildings were scratch built, using various
                  methods. The stock is mainly kit
                  > built (this was already made before April), with lots more on the
                  work bench stil to dol.
                  > The layout ran well all weekend, with just one problem with a
                  computer cable that did not
                  > like the current with DCC all day.
                  > There is still loads of detail to add to keep me busy for some
                  while yet.
                  > My thanks go to Ken, Mike and Paul who helped build, transport and
                  exhibit the layout with
                  > me. There is nothing like a deadline to get things done.
                  >
                  > Martin
                  >
                • Stephen Dee
                  No problem in taking photos especially when then there are some attractive subjects on view :-) After it was not just the ladies showing of their chests!!!!!!
                  Message 8 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
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                    No problem in taking photos especially when then there are some attractive
                    subjects on view :-) After it was not just the ladies showing of their
                    chests!!!!!!



                    I must confess I had taken the photo of the map more for my own checking of
                    the route, rather then for use as part of Paul's display. I wanted to check
                    the location of my mining and lumber operation which is based at
                    Knockerdown, relative to the Henmore line, so I can persuade the HDLR to
                    build a branch and allow through running from the KLM to Ashbourne.



                    Stephen Dee, Shepshed, Leicestershire, England

                    KLM - Knockerdown Lumber and Mining

                    Charnwood Lumber

                    CFNS - Charnwood Forest and Norwood Southern RR

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                    From: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com [mailto:7mmnga@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                    Frank Sharp
                    Sent: 30 January 2007 02:01
                    To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [7mm NGA] Trent Valley Group Open Day



                    Paul,

                    Just a word of thanks to Stephen for taking the pictures, and to yourself
                    for going to the trouble of posting them on your web site. If you don't mind
                    leaving them on for a while, perhaps our editor could post the link in
                    Narrow Lines for anyone (foolish enough) not (to be) on the e-group.

                    For those who didn't come, it is I think a fair reflection of the day, even
                    if it goes slightly over the top on my scantily clad females. We obviously
                    now know where Stephen's interests lie..........Somewhere near mine perhaps.

                    Odd your comment with the map of Henmore about someone remembering your
                    fictitious railway. Frank

                    P.S. you might have put one picture through Photoshop and closed my shirt!






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                  • martincoombsuk
                    Ian Thanks for the compliment. In answer to your questions. ... The track is Peco O-16.5 track and points, painted and weathered. ... Total dimensions are 11 x
                    Message 9 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
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                      Ian

                      Thanks for the compliment.

                      In answer to your questions.

                      > 1/ The track appears hand laid, code used and source ?

                      The track is Peco O-16.5 track and points, painted and weathered.

                      > 2/ What are the total dimensions, and the dimensions of the sceniced
                      > section ?

                      Total dimensions are 11 x 2.5 feet, the scenic only bit is 8 x 2 feet max.

                      > 3/ I can't see a break, does the sceniced section get transported as
                      > one unit ?

                      Transports as two 4 foot boards and two 1.5 foot end return boards. Two 4 x 3 foot open
                      framework top boards carry the lighting and frame the layout. The layout is a 'Roundy,
                      roundy' with storage roads at the back effectively hidden inside the buildings.

                      I will upload some construction shots that will show this clearer.

                      The middle join is hidden by a removable building and the ship in the harbour.

                      Martin

                      >
                      > Thanks a lot
                      >
                      > Ian J
                      > Melb, Aust.
                      >
                    • robin edwards
                      Hi Martin, Welcome to the group, I am very impressed and I would be more than happy if I could build something like this myself. I found the constructional
                      Message 10 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
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                        Hi Martin,

                        Welcome to the group, I am very impressed and I would be more than happy if I could build something like this myself. I found the constructional photos very interesting and I am sure Mike Pountney would be please to publish your photos and a few words of description (he was asking for material for narrow Lines when he took over recently)!

                        Regards,

                        Robin Edwards

                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: martincoombsuk
                        To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:15 PM
                        Subject: [7mm NGA] My first 7mm narrow gauge layout


                        Hi
                        I have just uploaded pictures in the album 'WLR' of my first 7mm narrow gauge layout.
                        I volunteered the layout for my clubs exhibition, at the time, over 18 months away, no
                        trouble I thought!
                        Then, 3 months before the exhibition, "you have remembered your layout is due to appear at
                        the June exhibition, haven't you martin?", I was asked.
                        Whoops, HELP.
                        With the assistance of 3 club members, we met a couple of times each week at my shed for
                        modelling sessions, with much burning of the midnight oil and homework projects to take
                        away. We managed to transfer the bare boards into a reasonably presentable railway to
                        exhibit. All the buildings were scratch built, using various methods. The stock is mainly kit
                        built (this was already made before April), with lots more on the work bench stil to dol.
                        The layout ran well all weekend, with just one problem with a computer cable that did not
                        like the current with DCC all day.
                        There is still loads of detail to add to keep me busy for some while yet.
                        My thanks go to Ken, Mike and Paul who helped build, transport and exhibit the layout with
                        me. There is nothing like a deadline to get things done.

                        Martin





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                      • ianj0trains
                        Hi Martin, Thanks for your quick response on the track and module size. Your ballasting and rusting of the rails is very well done, I didn t pick it was Peco
                        Message 11 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
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                          Hi Martin,

                          Thanks for your quick response on the track and module size.

                          Your ballasting and "rusting" of the rails is very well done, I
                          didn't pick it was Peco from the appearance in the photos.

                          Thanks again,

                          Ian J
                          Melb, Aust.

                          PS I look forward to seeing more in Narrow Lines.




                          --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, "martincoombsuk" <martin.coombs@...>
                          wrote:
                          >
                          > Ian
                          >
                          > Thanks for the compliment.
                          >
                          > In answer to your questions.
                          >
                          > > 1/ The track appears hand laid, code used and source ?
                          >
                          > The track is Peco O-16.5 track and points, painted and weathered.
                          >
                          > > 2/ What are the total dimensions, and the dimensions of the
                          sceniced
                          > > section ?
                          >
                          > Total dimensions are 11 x 2.5 feet, the scenic only bit is 8 x 2
                          feet max.
                          >
                          > > 3/ I can't see a break, does the sceniced section get
                          transported as
                          > > one unit ?
                          >
                          > Transports as two 4 foot boards and two 1.5 foot end return
                          boards. Two 4 x 3 foot open
                          > framework top boards carry the lighting and frame the layout. The
                          layout is a 'Roundy,
                          > roundy' with storage roads at the back effectively hidden inside
                          the buildings.
                          >
                          > I will upload some construction shots that will show this clearer.
                          >
                          > The middle join is hidden by a removable building and the ship in
                          the harbour.
                          >
                          > Martin
                          >
                          > >
                          > > Thanks a lot
                          > >
                          > > Ian J
                          > > Melb, Aust.
                          > >
                          >
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