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  • William Uffelman
    Thank you. ... From: adriangrayfr Subject: Re: [7mm NGA] Narrow Lines To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 11,
    Message 1 of 24 , Apr 11, 2013
      Thank you.

      --- On Thu, 4/11/13, adriangrayfr <adrian@...> wrote:


      From: adriangrayfr <adrian@...>
      Subject: Re: [7mm NGA] Narrow Lines
      To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 3:32 PM



       



      Bill,

      The correct way to get an answer to this question is to address it to the Membership Secretary, who has all the details at his fingertips.
      members (at) 7mmnga (dot) org (dot) uk should be your target.

      Adrian - Committee Member

      --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, William Uffelman <ufffam@...> wrote:
      >
      > The last time I looked membership was for a paper product with mailing charges based on global location so I was inquiring whether there was an electronic membership that was not discriminate  based on location.
      >  
      > Bill Uffelman
      >
      > --- On Thu, 4/11/13, Chris <chris@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > From: Chris <chris@...>
      > Subject: Re: [7mm NGA] Narrow Lines
      > To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 2:58 PM
      >
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      >
      >
      > Hi Bill
      >
      > I am not sure I see the relevance of the question. Whether one is in the
      > UK or abroad this remains a new benefit for members only included in
      > their subscription. And it is an archive - it does not bring current or
      > recent issues to everyone digitally.
      >
      > Chris
      >
      > On 11/04/2013 22:44, William Uffelman wrote:
      > >
      > > And an electronic only membership for someone in North America costs?????
      > >
      > > Bill Uffelman
      > > --- On Thu, 4/11/13, Chris <chris@...
      > > <mailto:chris%40crislis.co.uk>> wrote:
      > >
      > > From: Chris <chris@... <mailto:chris%40crislis.co.uk>>
      > > Subject: [7mm NGA] Narrow Lines
      > > To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com <mailto:7mmnga%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 2:38 PM
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > At last we are now able to start giving members access to Narrow Lines
      > > back issues on line.
      > >
      > > Thus far, issues 1 to 80 have been scanned and uploaded.
      > >
      > > If you are a member, simply log on and follow the main menu link to the
      > > archives.
      > >
      > > If you aren't - well, there is yet another benefit which you are missing
      > > out on!
      > >
      > > Chris
      > >
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    • bobafett_42
      Thanks for all the suggestions Leigh 4414
      Message 2 of 24 , Apr 14, 2013
        Thanks for all the suggestions

        Leigh
        4414
      • Paul Holmes
        Hi When you loose this email, he is listed on ukmodelshops at http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/suppliers/40430-Dorset_Kits#.UWu13Il5mc0 Having recently bought
        Message 3 of 24 , Apr 15, 2013
          Hi
          When you loose this email, he is listed on ukmodelshops at

          http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/suppliers/40430-Dorset_Kits#.UWu13Il5mc0

          Having recently bought examples of all his Leek and Manifold range, I can recommend him wholeheartedly. He has no web site, no PayPal, no credit card facility but is happy to discuss on the phone and then pay by good old cheque in the post.
          The kits are very complete. I was surprised to find the carriages came with all wheels couplings glazing and even seats. All that was missing was the William Morris wallpaper for the first class compartments and lamp shades. However, The lamp shades are now available from Zamzoodled via shapeways 3D printers. I am working on the correct wallpaper with the archivist of Sandersons....
          Paul
          --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Budd <ajbudd@...> wrote:
          >
          > Kevin moved from that address back in 2009. He's now at;
          > Dorset Kits, 8 Southwood Close, Ferndown, Dorset, BH22 9HW. Phone 01202 875570
          >
          > Arthur
          >
          >
          > On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:23, Wooi Michael wrote:
          >
          > > Hi Chris
          > >
          > > Kevin Trim
          > >
          > > Wollongbar
          > > 92 Wimborne Road West
          > > Wimborne
          > > Dorset
          > > BH21 2DS
          > > United Kingdom
          > >
          > > Tel 01202 881255
          > >
          > > Have one of his kits, still incomplete. Very nice etches
          > >
          > > Mike
          > >
          > > Sent from my iPhone
          > >
          > > On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:16, Chris <chris@...> wrote:
          > >
          > >> Hi everyone
          > >>
          > >> I have completely lost the current contact details for the above.
          > >>
          > >> Can someone help please?
          > >>
          > >> Chris
          > >>
          > >>
          > >
          > >
          > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > ------------------------------------
          > >
          > > This group is:
          > > 1 - for people interested in modelling narrow gauge railways in 7mm:1ft scale or thereabouts
          > > 2 - not restricted to members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association although membership of said organisation is thoroughly recommended
          > > 3 - moderated by current serving members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association committeeYahoo! Groups Links
          > >
          > >
          > >
          >
          >
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          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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        • James C
          Dear Paul, Does Kevin do catalogues? If so how canI get one? best wishes, James Corsi
          Message 4 of 24 , Apr 16, 2013
            Dear Paul,
            Does Kevin do catalogues? If so how canI get one?
            best wishes,
            James Corsi

            --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Holmes" <heatonwood@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            > Hi
            > When you loose this email, he is listed on ukmodelshops at
            >
            > http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/suppliers/40430-Dorset_Kits#.UWu13Il5mc0
            >
            > Having recently bought examples of all his Leek and Manifold range, I can recommend him wholeheartedly. He has no web site, no PayPal, no credit card facility but is happy to discuss on the phone and then pay by good old cheque in the post.
            > The kits are very complete. I was surprised to find the carriages came with all wheels couplings glazing and even seats. All that was missing was the William Morris wallpaper for the first class compartments and lamp shades. However, The lamp shades are now available from Zamzoodled via shapeways 3D printers. I am working on the correct wallpaper with the archivist of Sandersons....
            > Paul
            > --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Budd <ajbudd@> wrote:
            > >
            > > Kevin moved from that address back in 2009. He's now at;
            > > Dorset Kits, 8 Southwood Close, Ferndown, Dorset, BH22 9HW. Phone 01202 875570
            > >
            > > Arthur
            > >
            > >
            > > On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:23, Wooi Michael wrote:
            > >
            > > > Hi Chris
            > > >
            > > > Kevin Trim
            > > >
            > > > Wollongbar
            > > > 92 Wimborne Road West
            > > > Wimborne
            > > > Dorset
            > > > BH21 2DS
            > > > United Kingdom
            > > >
            > > > Tel 01202 881255
            > > >
            > > > Have one of his kits, still incomplete. Very nice etches
            > > >
            > > > Mike
            > > >
            > > > Sent from my iPhone
            > > >
            > > > On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:16, Chris <chris@> wrote:
            > > >
            > > >> Hi everyone
            > > >>
            > > >> I have completely lost the current contact details for the above.
            > > >>
            > > >> Can someone help please?
            > > >>
            > > >> Chris
            > > >>
            > > >>
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > ------------------------------------
            > > >
            > > > This group is:
            > > > 1 - for people interested in modelling narrow gauge railways in 7mm:1ft scale or thereabouts
            > > > 2 - not restricted to members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association although membership of said organisation is thoroughly recommended
            > > > 3 - moderated by current serving members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association committeeYahoo! Groups Links
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            >
          • Paul Holmes
            Hi James There is a duplicated sheet type catalogue - no photos though!! I am at work now and will try and remember to dig it out this evening and cross check
            Message 5 of 24 , Apr 16, 2013
              Hi James

              There is a duplicated sheet type catalogue - no photos though!! I am at work now and will try and remember to dig it out this evening and cross check what I have forgotten! but from memory :-

              Leek and Manifold -
              All Third Brake composite carriages
              Bogie goods van
              Short transporter waggon - both 1904 and 1907 style
              Open bogie waggon

              I am not sure about long transporter but otherwise ALL the stock that the L+M possessed. Kits are all etched brass bodies, whitemetal cast bogies and fittings, all glazing material, cast-in-stone type resin seats with whitemetal armrests, all wheels. Couplings are scale choppers but in whitemetal so I am replacing with John's zamzoodled ones. The transporter waggons are scale width which means that a standard O gauge waggon will not fit - either the back to back on the standard gauge needs to be opened up or better still fit regular scaleseven wheelsets from Slaters.

              I have now built all these and they go together well. The carriages are time consuming to build but good level of detail - if I can get them finished you can see them at Burton. More kits here to hone your new found soldering skills! From memory, Carriages are about £125 each or two for £220 waggons £35-45ish.

              Welshpool and Llanfair -

              Original Beyer Peacock locos The Earl and The Countess
              original third and brake carriage (as wonderfully represented by the Boston Lodge replicas in GW brown and cream)
              I will await comment from Adrian Gray on these as he has built at least the carriage (as he did it so beautifully and wrote it up in an MRJ many moons ago) - not sure how he is doing with the loco??

              There are also a couple of other items, I think from memory Snailbeach trucks??

              It is a shame that Kevin only deals via specialist shows or on a one to one order system. I think he could sell rather more if he was more accessable but it does make the models a little more exclusive!

              Paul
            • Paul Holmes
              I have now added three photos showing the transporter with Dapol PO waggon, the bogie open and the Slater s loco - all in bare metal finish. Listed under
              Message 6 of 24 , Apr 16, 2013
                I have now added three photos showing the transporter with Dapol PO waggon, the bogie open and the Slater's loco - all in bare metal finish. Listed under 'Hulme End' in the photo section or link below

                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/7mmnga/photos/album/1997020733/pic/list

                Paul
              • adriangrayfr
                James, Either write to Kevin with an SAE - address details given elsewhere in this thread - or ring him up and ask about the kits. Kevin is very keen and will
                Message 7 of 24 , Apr 16, 2013
                  James,

                  Either write to Kevin with an SAE - address details given elsewhere in this thread - or ring him up and ask about the kits. Kevin is very keen and will talk about them very happily.
                  Kevin is a professional kit designer - which is to say that he dos the job for other manufacturers, mainly for SG prototypes.

                  The Welshpool carriage that Paul was so kind about was Kevin's first on his own account and his experience showed very clearly - it was very well designed and, granted that I've done a lot of etched kits in my time, I though it a doddle to put together.
                  The Welshpool wagons, standard whitemetal kits, are also very well made and go together nicely.

                  By the time Kevin got to doing the Welshpool locos he was well into his stride and the kits are both comprehensive, well-designed and pretty challenging. I confess I got about halfway through and had to break off from modelling for both health and family reasons and it hasn't been the first model I've picked up to try and get back into the swing of things!

                  Both Welshpool and Leek & Manifold railways had pretty generous loading gauges, so be careful to make sure the models will fit on your proposed layout - the L&M carriages are enormous!!

                  Adrian

                  --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, "James C" <jamesmcorsi@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Dear Paul,
                  > Does Kevin do catalogues? If so how canI get one?
                  > best wishes,
                  > James Corsi
                  >
                  > --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Holmes" <heatonwood@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Hi
                  > > When you loose this email, he is listed on ukmodelshops at
                  > >
                  > > http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/suppliers/40430-Dorset_Kits#.UWu13Il5mc0
                  > >
                  > > Having recently bought examples of all his Leek and Manifold range, I can recommend him wholeheartedly. He has no web site, no PayPal, no credit card facility but is happy to discuss on the phone and then pay by good old cheque in the post.
                  > > The kits are very complete. I was surprised to find the carriages came with all wheels couplings glazing and even seats. All that was missing was the William Morris wallpaper for the first class compartments and lamp shades. However, The lamp shades are now available from Zamzoodled via shapeways 3D printers. I am working on the correct wallpaper with the archivist of Sandersons....
                  > > Paul
                  > > --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Budd <ajbudd@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Kevin moved from that address back in 2009. He's now at;
                  > > > Dorset Kits, 8 Southwood Close, Ferndown, Dorset, BH22 9HW. Phone 01202 875570
                  > > >
                  > > > Arthur
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:23, Wooi Michael wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > > Hi Chris
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Kevin Trim
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Wollongbar
                  > > > > 92 Wimborne Road West
                  > > > > Wimborne
                  > > > > Dorset
                  > > > > BH21 2DS
                  > > > > United Kingdom
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Tel 01202 881255
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Have one of his kits, still incomplete. Very nice etches
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Mike
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Sent from my iPhone
                  > > > >
                  > > > > On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:16, Chris <chris@> wrote:
                  > > > >
                  > > > >> Hi everyone
                  > > > >>
                  > > > >> I have completely lost the current contact details for the above.
                  > > > >>
                  > > > >> Can someone help please?
                  > > > >>
                  > > > >> Chris
                  > > > >>
                  > > > >>
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > ------------------------------------
                  > > > >
                  > > > > This group is:
                  > > > > 1 - for people interested in modelling narrow gauge railways in 7mm:1ft scale or thereabouts
                  > > > > 2 - not restricted to members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association although membership of said organisation is thoroughly recommended
                  > > > > 3 - moderated by current serving members of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association committeeYahoo! Groups Links
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                • David Woodcock
                  Paul s transporter wagons look every bit as good as Paul s previous work BUT how did THAT P.O. wagon get to be on a L&MVLR transporter wagon? David Woodcock
                  Message 8 of 24 , Apr 17, 2013
                    Paul's transporter wagons look every bit as good as Paul's previous work BUT how did THAT P.O. wagon get to be on a L&MVLR transporter wagon?

                    David Woodcock
                  • adriangrayfr
                    Paul put it there, of course!!!! ... Adrian - who knows what you David is driving at!
                    Message 9 of 24 , Apr 17, 2013
                      Paul put it there, of course!!!!

                      :-)

                      Adrian - who knows what you David is driving at!


                      --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, David Woodcock <dandewoodcock@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Paul's transporter wagons look every bit as good as Paul's previous work BUT how did THAT P.O. wagon get to be on a L&MVLR transporter wagon?
                      >
                      > David Woodcock
                      >
                    • Paul Holmes
                      Hi David and Adrian Absolutely.. Messrs Allen and Co had an arrangement with Catterley and Whitfield coal merchants of Tunstall, to supply house coal to
                      Message 10 of 24 , Apr 18, 2013
                        Hi David and Adrian
                        Absolutely.. Messrs Allen and Co had an arrangement with Catterley and Whitfield coal merchants of Tunstall, to supply house coal to Hulme End in 1906 whilst Mr Catterley was in hospital with a hernia.
                        In reality, mostly as Dapol had it RTR and it looked pretty....
                        Paul

                        --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, "adriangrayfr" <adrian@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Paul put it there, of course!!!!
                        >
                        > :-)
                        >
                        > Adrian - who knows what you David is driving at!
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com, David Woodcock <dandewoodcock@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > Paul's transporter wagons look every bit as good as Paul's previous work BUT how did THAT P.O. wagon get to be on a L&MVLR transporter wagon?
                        > >
                        > > David Woodcock
                        > >
                        >
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