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RE: [7mmnga] pallets and oil barrels

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  • frank.j.sharp
    Pallets should knock up fairly quickly from plasticard, strips cut to length for the slats and either laminate some together for the main timbers or if you
    Message 1 of 9 , May 7 1:58 PM

      Pallets should knock up fairly quickly from plasticard, strips cut to length for the slats and either laminate some together for the main timbers or if you have anyone nearby who keeps those lengths of plastic sections , is it plaststrut? there are some suitable square sections. The same outfit do plastic tubing, cut it to length, face only the ‘top’ and use thin say 10 x 20 microstrip to put the bands round the barrel. Putting one at the top and letting it just stand proud of the top face should give you the characteristic recess in the top. Bear in mind that this recess fills with water and general rubbish, leaves etc if the drums are left outside any length of time Other bands go at the bottom and two up the sides to give three equally spaced gaps between them. Usually there is one small bung and one large bung opposite each other on the top just clear enough of the rim to get to loosen them. A third large bung is half way down one side, arranged so if the drum is laid on its side with this bung at the top, the large bung on the lid is at the bottom.

      If you find it difficult to cut the tube square, either a mitre block or stand the tube upright, fit a pencil in a block of plasticine so the point is at the right height and gently rotate the tube against the point should help. (I would cheat, but I’ve got a Unimat Lathe)

      Bungs I would make from solid rod the right diameter and drill the body to take short lengths which can then be filed level. I’m sure its easier than trying to cut very small discs all the same thickness and just sticking them on. Mind you I cannot slice bread straight!

      If you have time, Roy Link does some super drums, and I think one or two of the resin casters and probably Andy Duncan will also do drums.

      Now the tricky bit…..drums and pallets change sizes. 30 years ago 45 gallon (now 200 litre) drums were a bit more robust than nowadays. Pallets were bigger, we are now on Euro pallets which barely take 4 drums in a square. In the 1960’s it was usual to have bigger pallets which held 5 drums as the 5 spots on a dice. Flammable liquid, e.g petrol and cellulose thinner drums used to have the two bands on the drum sides as much heavier metal bands welded? in place so you could roll the drums safely. It is only in recent years, partly for safety and partly because the pallets have got more flimsy that drums are strapped together on the pallet, or sometimes even shrink wrapped.

       

      Are you wishing you’d never asked?

       

      Any you cock up or aren’t dead square, cover then with thin tissue and paint to look like tarpaulin. If you stack the pallets you only need bungs on the sides of the lower ones, the tops won’t show. The two ‘bands’ on the sides are really just corrugations to strengthen the drum, you are not supposed to use them to lift the drum with the forks on a forklift truck. But everyone does!, so the drum gets squeezed and the paint comes off.

       

      Only pallets I see painted are the blue Chep ones, but its not unusual to see the main timbers painted , or just painted on just the ends of these timbers to identify the owner. There is almost an unwritten law in industry never to buy pallets but to always use those from your suppliers to send goods out to your customers. In other words, they shouldn’t all match!

       

      Frank

       

      -----Original Message-----
      From: jwa172001 [mailto:john.adams7@...]
      Sent: 07 May 2003 16:18
      To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [7mmnga] pallets and oil barrels

       

      Hi All

      Anyone got and tips on how to make some pallets and oil barrels
      quickly. Need them for a show next weekend.

      thanks
      john adams



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    • Alan Rogers
      Wow, that was very illuminating - thanks Frank. My answer was the way that ended up with drums and pallets of my own but now I ve got more than a clue how to
      Message 2 of 9 , May 7 2:06 PM
        Wow, that was very illuminating - thanks Frank. My answer was the way that
        ended up with drums and pallets of my own but now I've got more than a clue
        how to paint and damage them too.

        Can anyone do a similar expose on skips? Not the Roy Link kind but the one's
        you hire that always end up with someone else's mattress in it. I wanted to
        build some for a long time but feel like a bit of a wally in the street with
        a tape measure. I'm guessing there are standard sizes?

        Alan Rogers
        DreamGenius on the WWW
        Thin Controller on the SHIRly
      • jwa172001
        Thanks Frank for your help. Will start making them tomorrow night.I live in N.Ireland and i either have to do mail order or make my own things because we
        Message 3 of 9 , May 7 2:26 PM
          Thanks Frank for your help. Will start making them tomorrow night.I
          live in N.Ireland and i either have to do mail order or make my own
          things because we hav'nt got a good model shop about. With the show
          next weekend i don't have the time to do Mail Order.

          If anyone else has ideas about making weeds/long grass please get in
          touch ASAP.

          This will be the first time the exhibition i am atennding has had a
          7mm NG layout and i hope to promote the Society and show off some of
          the things that are available from it. If anyone has any unwanted 7mm
          items they would like to donate to help show of the the Society in
          Northern Ireland please get in touch with me off this newsgroup (END
          OF AD)

          Thanks Again Everyone

          John Adams
        • frank.j.sharp
          Alan Try Nationwide
          Message 4 of 9 , May 7 3:02 PM

            Alan

             

            Try

             

            Nationwide Skip Hire - Equip Logistics Limited

             

            All sizes listed, there is also a Cairns skips for anyone modelling New Zealand skips!

             

            Frank

             

            P.S. ideal site for one of those electronic ‘fires’ and a smoke unit

             

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Alan Rogers [mailto:models@...]
            Sent: 07 May 2003 22:06
            To: 7mmnga@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [7mmnga] RE: Was pallets and oil barrels, now Skips

             

            Wow, that was very illuminating - thanks Frank. My answer was the way that
            ended up with drums and pallets of my own but now I've got more than a clue
            how to paint and damage them too.

            Can anyone do a similar expose on skips? Not the Roy Link kind but the one's
            you hire that always end up with someone else's mattress in it. I wanted to
            build some for a long time but feel like a bit of a wally in the street with
            a tape measure. I'm guessing there are standard sizes?

            Alan Rogers
            DreamGenius on the WWW
            Thin Controller on the SHIRly



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          • Alan Rogers
            Excellent - thanks again Frank. I also found http://www.woodsskiphire.co.uk which has dimensions of the big RoRo container skips. Why didn t I think to look on
            Message 5 of 9 , May 7 3:11 PM
              Excellent - thanks again Frank. I also found http://www.woodsskiphire.co.uk
              which has dimensions of the big RoRo container skips. Why didn't I think to
              look on the net under Skip Hire. Embarrassing - it's only what I do for a
              living!

              Alan
            • Alan Rogers
              Yes, thanks Graham. I thought that too after I d reread it. Amazing how things develop errors after you typed them isn t it? You ll pay for that on Saturday!
              Message 6 of 9 , May 7 3:25 PM
                Yes, thanks Graham. I thought that too after I'd reread it. Amazing how
                things develop errors after you typed them isn't it?
                You'll pay for that on Saturday! Where is the nearest hostelry to the hall?

                For the record, I work for an Internet Service Provider, not an advertising
                agency specialising in skip hire!

                Alan
              • Graham Spencer
                Looking up skip hire on the net seems a very specialised way of earning a living.... Sorry - couldn t resist it! Graham ... From: Alan Rogers
                Message 7 of 9 , May 7 3:27 PM
                  Looking up skip hire on the net seems a very specialised way of earning a
                  living....

                  Sorry - couldn't resist it!

                  Graham

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                  Sent: 07 May 2003 23:11
                  Subject: RE: [7mmnga] RE: Was pallets and oil barrels, now Skips


                  > Excellent - thanks again Frank. I also found
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