Re: [5feet] Reservations for Russian trains - how you can save some money!
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From: "Emil Jelstrup" <emj@...>
> > > A reservation Moscow - Irkutsk in kupeyny
> > > costs about 25-50 each way if bought through DB.
EUR 27 (BTW, EUR 50 to Vladivostok) if bought through ÖBB. Today I've been
at the central station in Graz, to try if reservations are possible from
here too. They are possible, and the man at the ticket office was quite
surprised, it seems that reservations for trains beyond Moskva are something
unusual at Graz...;-)
(Because my trip will start in July, it's not yet possible to make
reservations, and so I made a test-reservations for
any date (2002-02-03)- only to see if it works -, which I've cancelled
> > > Germany - Moscow costs about
> > > 25 in 3-bed sleeper.
> > Vienna - Moscow costed EUR 16,35 last year,
> It should probably be 163,50.
It's EUR 16,35, but that's the price for the reservation (3-bed-sleeper).
The train fare (2nd class, one-way) was EUR 110,17 last summer, (~EUR 90
with BIJ-Wasteels and Vorteilsticket).
> You could probably also save a lot of money if
> you took a train Vienna - Bratislava, and another train Bratislava -
I could also take an earlier train to Breclav (1st station in Czech Republic
on the way to Moskva) and buy the ticket to Moskva there. That should also
> > maybe prices went up. But 25
> > years ago the sleeper supplement for this trip was about ATS 400 (EUR
> > reflecting inflation it would cost about EUR 70 now...
> I don't think it would cost more than 40-50. 70 sounds exteremly
> compared with sleeper supplements from Germany, Poland and Czech Republic.
EUR 16,35 was the sleeper supplement in 2001 (see above), so it's cheaper
than 25 years ago!
EUR 70 would be the price today, if the price increase would have been the
same e.g. as for domestic Austrian tickets.
> Wouldn't it be possible just to buy a Sparpreis ticket from Salzburg
> a both German and Austrian tariff point) to Irkutsk via Vienna? Or if
> not possible, a ticket from the border station on the German side?
AFAIK the Sparpreis Russland is only available via German/Polish border
> Then you could avoid most of the detour...
The detour is no problem, as I like going by train.
Actually I'm considering following route:
Graz - IC - Bischofshofen - EC - München - ICE - Hannover - EN/D - Moskva -
#10 "Baikal" - Irkutsk - #9 "Baikal" - Jekaterinburg - #15 "Ural" - Moskva -
D/EN - Hannover - ICE - München - EC - Bischofshofen - IC - Graz (16662 km)
Another questions regardin train reservations in Europe and Asia:
Turkmenistan and Armenia afaik do not use Express 2 (3). Do they use any
electronic booking network at all? How was the situation during the Soviet
Are reservations between EPA and Express-2 (3) also possible vice-versa,
e.g. would it be possible to make a train reservation from, say, Graz Hbf
(somewhere in Austria) to Stainach-Irdning (somewhere in Austria) at the
station of, say, Vladivostok?
Graz - Austria