RE: [40Whacks] Jeff's Rant
- Jeffrey Tesch hallucinated thusly:
>Churchill did not take Lizzie into the house,Again you miss what the point of the original discussion was about...it
doesn't matter whether Churchill took Lizzie into the house or whether
Lizzie was still in the house; the point is that CHURCHILL WENT INTO THE
>You said once last year that perhaps Lizzie stayed in the rooming house andShow me the post where I used those words.
>then rushed back home because she knew the murders were going down and
>wanted to play "detective" (Lizzie Drew!) Silly stuff like that must be
What I may have conjectured is that the reason for her staying at the
rooming house was because she suspected *something* was afoot, and perhaps
wanted to keep an eye on what was happening back home. The object of her
suspicions wouldn't have been murder, but rather what Andrew and Abby were
If she was innocent and suspected that murder was afoot, it makes no sense
that she would stay at the rooming house over the weekend rather than coming
straight home. Her sojourn at the rooming house instead suggests she wanted
her parents to think that she was with Emma when she was in fact closer to
home for some reason, perhaps to see what happened in her absence (would be
interesting to know if the Bordens had any visitors that weekend).
>However, you and Muriel continue to refer to me as "Tesch" - which IGet over it.
>consider to be rude and impersonal...
>I would never refer to you as LoganI wouldn't care one way or the other if you did.
>By the by: Abby's body was more than staged - It was outright moved. DolanBut the blood stain on the carpet shows that was indeed where Abby fell --
>let George Pettee in to view the body and they raised it up and moved the
>arms. That's in the transcript.
and unless Dolan and Pettee (gee, should I refer to them as MISTER Dolan and
MISTER Pettee to show respect?) actually rolled Abby's body over, then it
still seems as if the murder scene was staged before they lifted her body.
And it still means that Abby fell forward onto her face when she fell -- and
that can't be explained by her standing facing her attacker when the first
blow was struck.
Since there was no other significant blood in the room, the bloodstained
carpet shows where she initially fell, and that she wasn't moved from that
spot. So how could she fall on her face in the far corner facing into the
far corner AWAY from the rest of the room and the door the killer would have
come in if she was standing facing the killer when the first blow was
>And June - I once spun a bizarre Borden scenario for you (Sara WhiteheadYes, that is a bizarre theory.
>killed Andrew) in a private email years ago.
What is even more bizarre is that you claim you sent me an email about it --
that's news to me. Either you are mistaken about that email, or I was so
UNIMPRESSED by the theory that it's undergone the FIFO-GIGO process...
>Soon after Maynard BertoletNeither a spy or even ever a subscriber.
>(LBQ editor and staunch supporter of the "mystery" theory) sent me an email
>asking about it. Perhaps you were a spy for the LBQ?
I have no idea who Bertolet is, other than what you claim, ergo never had
any communication with the gentleman.
Perhaps it's the 100 Monkeys Syndrome....and no, it's not a bunch of monkeys
in a room banging on typewriters eventually creating the complete works of
More Philo Farnsworth...
>I have a separate file of your best posts saved.You stated that once before, and once again I have to ask, "Why?"
The list is archived; anything anyone has ever posted (including me) is
Interesting that I have such an influence on you, Tesch -- nothing you have
ever posted has created a desire in me to save it to a separate file....
>But your battle to push the "open and shut" Borden case into mystery is aYOU are the only one intent on battle, Tesch, and you are the only one
besides Muriel Arnold pushing a This-Is-the-Only-Way-It-Happened cause....
The rest of us prefer DISCUSSION (remember that?) on this DISCUSSION LIST.
That means DISCUSSING, and politely debating, different theories regarding
>Lizze's minions (not mine) knowOh brother! :P
>you can never diminish her fiendish endeavor. She will always remain our
>diabolical goddess of the black arts.
A Sunday school teacher who was a staunch WCTU member a "diabolical goddess
of the black arts"?
Someone needs to turn a hose on you, Tesch -- you're obviously jonesing for
your mythological version of Lizzie...
(who is remembering why she dropped out of this list for so long)