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  • Barry
    Hello Steve N6VL & all. Yes a year ago I was on air some days until 02 hours UTC, but not this year. Why the band seems closed I do not know. 73 Barry M0IOW,
    Message 1 of 28 , Jan 3, 2010
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      Hello Steve N6VL & all.
      Yes a year ago I was on air some days until 02 hours UTC, but not this year.
      Why the band seems closed I do not know.
      73
      Barry M0IOW, 30MDG#013

      > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course)
      > are closing after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past
      > few months.
      >
      > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and
      > was surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall
      > correctly, this time last year 30 meters was still open for a
      > while after dusk. Last night I parked the VFO on 10140 and
      > watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or two, but very very faint.
      >
      > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
      >
      > 73,
      >
      > Steve N6VL
      > DM03xu
      >
    • Thomas F. Giella NZ4O
      Steve what is happening on 30 meters is that the F layer critical frequency (foF2) and maximum usable frequency (MUF) are falling under the 30 meter band at
      Message 2 of 28 , Jan 3, 2010
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        Steve what is happening on 30 meters is that the F layer critical frequency
        (foF2) and maximum usable frequency (MUF) are falling under the 30 meter
        band at night time along the path(s) that you want to work.

        73, GUD DX, Happy New Year 2010,
        Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
        Lakeland, FL, USA
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      • Don
        Hello All, First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports and posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas. Thanks to Steve N6VL
        Message 3 of 28 , Jan 3, 2010
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          Hello All,

          First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports and posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas.

          Thanks to Steve N6VL (sorry but everyone in the Midwest has gone to bed many nights before you West Coast guys get on the band...I see many CA ops CQ's go unanswered on 30m), Andy K3UK, Don ZL1ATB, Delbert N5ZTW, and Barry M0IOW for your observations about 30 meters and the `band closing after sunset'.

          I guess I'm going to be the minority here on this one and have to go against the grain because in my area of the World (Peoria, IL EN50dp) this doesn't seem be the case that the band closes after sunset. In saying this I want to be clear that there are many things in play….of course first being propagation paths according to your area, your antenna, the amount of time you operate at night, those on the 30m band to actually make contacts with after sunset, etc etc.

          With this being said over the last 4 years of operating almost exclusively on 30m at many different times of the day and watching the reported 30m contact data from many I have to say that it is my belief that the 30m band does change before and after sunset and sunrise….in fact much of the DX follows the greyline paths on 30m but then again I have to say that according to my data here anyway this band doesn't die (does change though) after sunset but the activity or operators working the digital part of the band does die off. I think the main reason is that many do think the 30 meter band is not workable after sunset and they throw out a few CQ's and if no replies in a few minutes they figure that if 20m is dead with propagation and now 30m has no replies to their CQ's then down to the 40m and 80m bands they go…..I see this often. I wish I had a dollar for every time I make a contact after sunset or late into the night with others on 30m band and they say "I thought this band was closed at night, good to see your signal".

          I and others have brought up the fact that the band is open at night or almost anytime (of course it depends if anyone is around where the paths are open….below are just a few past posts for reference):
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/5323
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/5016
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4981
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4980
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4979
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4936

          One of our first 30 Meter Digital Group Events for 30m was POP or `Play on PropNet'. This was back October of 2007 and we had over 180 operators gather on 30m 24x7 and it was a fact that this band was open 24x7 somewhere.

          http://www.propnet.org/
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/photos/album/1763203621/pic/list


          Lucky for us we have a few aids that we can use to prove or even document if the 30m band is open after sunset or during the night time hours….. PSK Reporter, PropNet, WSPR, HamSpots 30m, online PSK 30m Rxvrs, and other DX Cluster Spots.

          http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.html

          http://www.propnet.org/

          http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots

          http://www.hamspots.net/30/

          http://on7kei.no-ip.info:8080/Receiver.html

          http://aprs.pa3gwh.com/PskRcvR12/Applet/Receiver.html

          http://www.dxsummit.fi/


          Since so far what I have mentioned is past data like you I wondered since so many are saying the band is dead after sunset I thought it was time to test this once again last night under current 30m band conditions. So after sunset here I decided to dedicate a few hours to get on the band and put out some CQ's to see if contacts are possible and if no one was on the band then I would have to rely on the above help aids with `known' monitors on the 30m band (I will exclude WSPR on this because if I referenced WSPR it would show many more paths 24 x 7 but since WSPR is such a weaksignal mode most other digital modes would not complete the path openings..but they are there!).

          I was able to make 2 contacts within about 45 minutes of CQing on the band. The first contact was:

          Jan3,2010 30m BPSK31 time on 02:45 off 02:55 UTC-night here ….VE3GHP Garry in Ottawa Canada, was 569 here and 100% print…he was using ic7000 and 40m osf wire antenna and he indicated he was new to PSK and I was his second psk contact (he didn't know any better than not to try 30m at night!).

          Jan3, 2010 30m BPSK31 time on 02:59 off 03:12 UTC-night here…K2MJ Karl Lockport NY, was 579 here and 100% print…he was using a kwnd rig, 30m dipole, was 30mdg#1779 (Karl indicated he just thought to look in on 30m because of all the RTTY traffic on 40m and 80m due to the RTTY contest).

          BTW the night before on Jan2, 2010 on 30m BPSK31 I noticed John VE1CDD calling CQ DX many times so I waited a while to see if any DX would answer then replied back to him with a 599 report…our contact started at 03:17 and lasted until 03:52 UTC –night time here..so it was a long QSO and I got a chance to talk to John direct about his antenna and the 160m band (thanks John in advance for your willingness to send me the details on your antenna being used and I look forward to seeing the information!).

          Ok more evidence that the band was open but not may around for QSO on 30m last night was from the PSK Reporter data on what I was receiving and what monitors were receiving me:
          http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.html



          KB9UMT
          K2MJ
          30m PSK31 596 miles 04:50:46
          KB9UMT
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 0 miles 04:50:45
          KB9UMT
          WB6YTE
          30m PSK31 1607 miles 04:28:50
          KB9UMT
          VE1CDD
          30m PSK31 2165 kms 03:27:11
          KB3MOW
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 430 miles 03:17:59
          K2MJ
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 596 miles 02:59:25
          KB9UMT
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 0 miles 02:35:36
          KJ4IDH
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 996 miles 02:03:56
          N5ZTW
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 430 miles 01:33:39
          N5ZTW
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 430 miles 01:27:14
          K4OB
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 972 miles 01:12:01
          W5TKZ
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 840 miles 00:53:10
          K2TY
          KB9UMT
          30m PSK31 716 miles 23:33:15


          I like using PropNet fragment page because if by chance it isn't reported to the PropNet map the data for sure will be here if any of the PropNet stations picked up my signal (these are `known' PropNet monitor stations that we can count on being here…but even the PropNet stations at night decrease so it is difficult at times knowing if any will be monitoring…tonight we had a number of them on 30m band…btw, I also use this to test antennas and how well one is working against the other).



          http://propnet.org/frag3.php?band=HG&last=24&call=¢er=NA
          (ps. I'm including from last night after sunset most all the fragments and you will see others on the band calling CQ ….look for KB9UMT or if you were calling last night after sunset look for your call in the PropNet fragment reports)

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          BTW, many nights around 0200 to 0500 UTC I have been watching the new 30m online PSK Rxvrs and noticed that I know the EU folks are fast in bed asleep but I keep these up and running and also see CQ's being unanswered and a number of Russians that seem persistent on the 30m band after sunset and very late in the night early morning.

          http://on7kei.no-ip.info:8080/Receiver.html

          http://aprs.pa3gwh.com/PskRcvR12/Applet/Receiver.html





          http://www.hamspots.net/30/
          (all data from around 0100 to 0400 UTC after sunset here for me)

          Cluster & PSKReporter Spots
          Age Spotter DX ST Freq Mode
          6m OE1TRB UT2AA Ukraine - lotw
          10140.00 PSK31
          6m OE1TRB RK3VXL European Russia
          10140.00 PSK31
          6m EA1GDL RZ9UF Asiatic Russia
          10139.63 PSK31
          6m SV8RV RW9LL Asiatic Russia - lotw
          10120.60 CW
          6m DK3UL UR5CJN Ukraine
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m IZ0BAK RN6AJ European Russia - lotw
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m IZ0BAK RA6MH European Russia
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m SV8RV IK2DAD Italy
          10116.20 CW
          11m IZ0BAK OH3JVE Finland
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m SV8RV UR5AS Ukraine
          10106.20 CW
          11m DK3UL RZ3DLJ European Russia
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m SV8RV RX4CD European Russia
          10103.70 CW
          11m DK3UL UR5VKX Ukraine
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m DK3UL SV1MNT Greece
          10140.00 PSK31
          11m DK3UL RA6AN European Russia
          10140.00 PSK31
          56m KB9UMT WB0VGD United States, CO
          CO 10140.00 PSK31
          +1h IZ0BAK RK3VXL European Russia
          10140.00 PSK31
          +1h IZ0BAK RA3AET European Russia
          10140.00 PSK31
          +1h IZ0BAK UA3ADW European Russia - lotw
          10140.00 PSK31
          +1h IZ0BAK UA0AV Asiatic Russia - lotw
          10140.00 PSK31
          +1h WB6YTE AF6MW United States, CA
          CA 10140.53 PSK31
          +1h UA0AV RW3DQC European Russia
          10141.50 PSK31
          +1h SV8RV RA6MQ European Russia
          10106.50 CW
          +1h SV8RV RA6LCN European Russia
          10109.10 CW
          +1h SV8RV UR5EAJ Ukraine
          10126.10 CW
          +1h SV8RV RA9FN Asiatic Russia - lotw
          10103.20 CW
          +1h SV8RV UU5JIB Ukraine
          10106.20 CW
          +1h SV8RV RA1QEA European Russia - lotw
          10105.30 CW
          +1h SV8RV UA9CM Asiatic Russia
          10115.80 CW
          +2h K2MJ KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10140.00 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE KB9MT United States, IN
          IN 10140.32 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE KB9UM United States
          10140.32 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10140.32 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE A7CU Qatar
          10140.91 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE AA7CU United States, OR - lotw
          OR 10140.91 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE AA7AAC United States
          10140.91 PSK31
          +2h KB9UMT KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10141.42 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE KL7R/W7 Alaska
          10139.95 PSK31
          +2h WB6YTE KL7QR/W7 Alaska
          10139.95 PSK31
          +3h VE1CDD K3XI United States, VA
          VA 10139.91 PSK31
          +3h WB6YTE KE0OG United States, CO
          CO 10140.61 PSK31
          +3h WB6YTE KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10140.32 PSK31
          +3h WB6YTE K0GUZ United States, CO - lotw
          CO 10140.08 PSK31
          +3h VE1CDD KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10139.90 PSK31
          +3h WB6YTE AA7U United States, OR
          OR 10140.92 PSK31
          +3h WB6YTE AA7CU United States, OR - lotw
          OR 10140.87 PSK31
          +3h KB9UMT KB3MOW United States, PA - lotw
          PA 10140.00 PSK31
          +4h VE1CDD W6QE United States, CA - lotw
          CA 10139.90 PSK31
          +4h KD6IL AA7CU United States, OR - lotw
          OR 10141.64 PSK31
          +4h KB9UMT K2MJ United States, NY
          NY 10140.58 PSK31
          +4h VE1CDD KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10139.90 PSK31
          +4h WB6YTE KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10140.31 PSK31
          +4h K2MJ WB0PTO/9 United States
          10140.00 PSK31
          +4h VE1CDD K2MJ United States, NY
          NY 10139.90 PSK31
          +4h KB9UMT KB9UMT United States, IL
          IL 10140.00 PSK31
          +4h WB6YTE UA0K Asiatic Russia
          10140.44 PSK31
          +4h WB6YTE UA0FO Asiatic Russia
          10140.44 PSK31
          +4h UA0AV JL6VKB Japan
          10141.50 PSK31
          +5h VE1CDD K3XI United States, VA
          VA 10139.90 PSK31
          +5h VE1CDD KG4UPR United States, VA
          VA 10139.90 PSK31
          +5h VE1CDD KJ4IDH United States, FL
          FL 10139.90 PSK31
          +5h KB9UMT N5ZTW United States, TX
          TX 10140.00 PSK31
          +5h KB9UMT N5ZTW United States, TX
          TX 10140.96 PSK31
          +5h SV8RV JT1D Mongolia
          10114.10 CW
          +6h SV8RV JT1BH Mongolia
          10116.10 CW
          +6h KB9UMT K4OB United States, FL
          FL 10141.63 PSK31
          +6h SV8RV JT1B Mongolia
          10114.10 CW
          +6h SV8RV JT1AA Mongolia
          10125.20 CW


          Also it again is very difficult using the PSK Reporter later in the evening or after sunset because you're not sure who on the 30m band is left to monitor since if the monitor's don't report within a certain amount of time they drop off (I know because I watch this and mine runs 24x7 on 30m so I'm always monitoring but just not always something to report if no one is on the band!). I did address this issue to Philip from PSK Reporter and I think he was going to try to extend the monitor drop offs to 2 hours after no reporting….see the 30mdg message post reference and also the personal email from Philip which I responded to please extend 2 hours if possible……..

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4986
          ************** Personal email from Philip PSK Reporter below **********************
          You are roughly right -- the monitor drops off the chart after an hour of not reporting anything. The protocol used to report spots is connectionless and so there is no way that the server can tell when a monitor drops off.

          I have thought of adding a keep alive tickle to the reporting engine so that the server can tell when the monitor is still running. Unfortunately, it can't tell the frequency that the radio is tuned to (unless something is spotted). This becomes a real issue if the freqmode2hrd tool is being used to switch frequencies every 15 minutes.....

          I can certainly make the 1 hour a configurable parameter so that you could (say) set it to 2 hours and see if things look better -- however, it doesn't really give you the right answer.

          Any ideas?

          Philip

          ****************************************


          So those with me so far I guess from my view here anyway the band is open most anytime…of course keeping in mind the factors listed starting at the beginning of this post…but I do find in interesting that even with only a few monitors (sometime only 3 or 4) via PSK Reporter or PropNet I seem to be able to be reported by a few of them and or make contacts after sunset. In fact some of my best DX is in the middle of the night! (just staying awake to make the contacts is the problem).

          Thanks
          de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001




          --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <n6vl@...> wrote:
          >
          > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are closing after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
          >
          > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night I parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or two, but very very faint.
          >
          > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
          >
          > 73,
          >
          > Steve N6VL
          > DM03xu
          >
        • Don Leitch
          MY observation wasnt really that it closes down here in zl at sunset because it dosent really. But we do get a 2nd boost later in the evening .If the band is
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            MY observation wasnt really that it closes  down here in zl at sunset because it dosent really. But we do get a 2nd boost later in the evening .If the band is working, I have only been a 30 meter op for the last few years and that’s sunspot min, so I don’t know what happens when it gets good. There dosent seem to be many 30 meter psk ops in this part of the world and I just don’t hear what the northern part of the world hears. A few months ago when the A index went up to about 7 I heard great dx here in Auckland. So I look forward as we all do no doubt to more regular sunspot activity and great propagation

            We seem to get  propagation from  late afternoon through the night until 10.00  next morning, I got up at midnight last night and 2  Asiatic Russian stations calling   cq  with no takers. I have been spotted by the odd VK in the middle of the day here but never any further.

            Rob zl 3 rd in the lower south island has a big quad beam and a tower to match so he hears differently than I do with my bit of wet string delta loop

            Don zl1atb

             

            From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
            Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 8:06 a.m.
            To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...

             

             

            Hello All,

            First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports and posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas.

            Thanks to Steve N6VL (sorry but everyone in the Midwest has gone to bed many nights before you West Coast guys get on the band...I see many CA ops CQ's go unanswered on 30m), Andy K3UK, Don ZL1ATB, Delbert N5ZTW, and Barry M0IOW for your observations about 30 meters and the `band closing after sunset'.

            I guess I'm going to be the minority here on this one and have to go against the grain because in my area of the World (Peoria, IL EN50dp) this doesn't seem be the case that the band closes after sunset. In saying this I want to be clear that there are many things in play….of course first being propagation paths according to your area, your antenna, the amount of time you operate at night, those on the 30m band to actually make contacts with after sunset, etc etc.

            With this being said over the last 4 years of operating almost exclusively on 30m at many different times of the day and watching the reported 30m contact data from many I have to say that it is my belief that the 30m band does change before and after sunset and sunrise….in fact much of the DX follows the greyline paths on 30m but then again I have to say that according to my data here anyway this band doesn't die (does change though) after sunset but the activity or operators working the digital part of the band does die off. I think the main reason is that many do think the 30 meter band is not workable after sunset and they throw out a few CQ's and if no replies in a few minutes they figure that if 20m is dead with propagation and now 30m has no replies to their CQ's then down to the 40m and 80m bands they go…..I see this often. I wish I had a dollar for every time I make a contact after sunset or late into the night with others on 30m band and they say "I thought this band was closed at night, good to see your signal".

            I and others have brought up the fact that the band is open at night or almost anytime (of course it depends if anyone is around where the paths are open….below are just a few past posts for reference):
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/5323
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/5016
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4981
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4980
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4979
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4936

            One of our first 30 Meter Digital Group Events for 30m was POP or `Play on PropNet'. This was back October of 2007 and we had over 180 operators gather on 30m 24x7 and it was a fact that this band was open 24x7 somewhere.

            http://www.propnet.org/
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/photos/album/1763203621/pic/list

            Lucky for us we have a few aids that we can use to prove or even document if the 30m band is open after sunset or during the night time hours….. PSK Reporter, PropNet, WSPR, HamSpots 30m, online PSK 30m Rxvrs, and other DX Cluster Spots.

            http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.html

            http://www.propnet.org/

            http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots

            http://www.hamspots.net/30/

            http://on7kei.no-ip.info:8080/Receiver.html

            http://aprs.pa3gwh.com/PskRcvR12/Applet/Receiver.html

            http://www.dxsummit.fi/

            Since so far what I have mentioned is past data like you I wondered since so many are saying the band is dead after sunset I thought it was time to test this once again last night under current 30m band conditions. So after sunset here I decided to dedicate a few hours to get on the band and put out some CQ's to see if contacts are possible and if no one was on the band then I would have to rely on the above help aids with `known' monitors on the 30m band (I will exclude WSPR on this because if I referenced WSPR it would show many more paths 24 x 7 but since WSPR is such a weaksignal mode most other digital modes would not complete the path openings..but they are there!).

            I was able to make 2 contacts within about 45 minutes of CQing on the band. The first contact was:

            Jan3,2010 30m BPSK31 time on 02:45 off 02:55 UTC-night here ….VE3GHP Garry in Ottawa Canada, was 569 here and 100% print…he was using ic7000 and 40m osf wire antenna and he indicated he was new to PSK and I was his second psk contact (he didn't know any better than not to try 30m at night!).

            Jan3, 2010 30m BPSK31 time on 02:59 off 03:12 UTC-night here…K2MJ Karl Lockport NY, was 579 here and 100% print…he was using a kwnd rig, 30m dipole, was 30mdg#1779 (Karl indicated he just thought to look in on 30m because of all the RTTY traffic on 40m and 80m due to the RTTY contest).

            BTW the night before on Jan2, 2010 on 30m BPSK31 I noticed John VE1CDD calling CQ DX many times so I waited a while to see if any DX would answer then replied back to him with a 599 report…our contact started at 03:17 and lasted until 03:52 UTC –night time here..so it was a long QSO and I got a chance to talk to John direct about his antenna and the 160m band (thanks John in advance for your willingness to send me the details on your antenna being used and I look forward to seeing the information!).

            Ok more evidence that the band was open but not may around for QSO on 30m last night was from the PSK Reporter data on what I was receiving and what monitors were receiving me:
            http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.html

            KB9UMT
            K2MJ
            30m PSK31 596 miles 04:50:46
            KB9UMT
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 0 miles 04:50:45
            KB9UMT
            WB6YTE
            30m PSK31 1607 miles 04:28:50
            KB9UMT
            VE1CDD
            30m PSK31 2165 kms 03:27:11
            KB3MOW
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 430 miles 03:17:59
            K2MJ
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 596 miles 02:59:25
            KB9UMT
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 0 miles 02:35:36
            KJ4IDH
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 996 miles 02:03:56
            N5ZTW
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 430 miles 01:33:39
            N5ZTW
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 430 miles 01:27:14
            K4OB
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 972 miles 01:12:01
            W5TKZ
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 840 miles 00:53:10
            K2TY
            KB9UMT
            30m PSK31 716 miles 23:33:15

            I like using PropNet fragment page because if by chance it isn't reported to the PropNet map the data for sure will be here if any of the PropNet stations picked up my signal (these are `known' PropNet monitor stations that we can count on being here…but even the PropNet stations at night decrease so it is difficult at times knowing if any will be monitoring…tonight we had a number of them on 30m band…btw, I also use this to test antennas and how well one is working against the other).

            http://propnet.org/frag3.php?band=HG&last=24&call=&center=NA
            (ps. I'm including from last night after sunset most all the fragments and you will see others on the band calling CQ ….look for KB9UMT or if you were calling last night after sunset look for your call in the PropNet fragment reports)

            Call Grid Band Score Age (dd:hh:mm:ss) UTC Time Fragment
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            BTW, many nights around 0200 to 0500 UTC I have been watching the new 30m online PSK Rxvrs and noticed that I know the EU folks are fast in bed asleep but I keep these up and running and also see CQ's being unanswered and a number of Russians that seem persistent on the 30m band after sunset and very late in the night early morning.

            http://on7kei.no-ip.info:8080/Receiver.html

            http://aprs.pa3gwh.com/PskRcvR12/Applet/Receiver.html

            http://www.hamspots.net/30/
            (all data from around 0100 to 0400 UTC after sunset here for me)

            Cluster & PSKReporter Spots
            Age Spotter DX ST Freq Mode
            6m OE1TRB UT2AA Ukraine - lotw
            10140.00 PSK31
            6m OE1TRB RK3VXL European Russia
            10140.00 PSK31
            6m EA1GDL RZ9UF Asiatic Russia
            10139.63 PSK31
            6m SV8RV RW9LL Asiatic Russia - lotw
            10120.60 CW
            6m DK3UL UR5CJN Ukraine
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m IZ0BAK RN6AJ European Russia - lotw
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m IZ0BAK RA6MH European Russia
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m SV8RV IK2DAD Italy
            10116.20 CW
            11m IZ0BAK OH3JVE Finland
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m SV8RV UR5AS Ukraine
            10106.20 CW
            11m DK3UL RZ3DLJ European Russia
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m SV8RV RX4CD European Russia
            10103.70 CW
            11m DK3UL UR5VKX Ukraine
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m DK3UL SV1MNT Greece
            10140.00 PSK31
            11m DK3UL RA6AN European Russia
            10140.00 PSK31
            56m KB9UMT WB0VGD United States, CO
            CO 10140.00 PSK31
            +1h IZ0BAK RK3VXL European Russia
            10140.00 PSK31
            +1h IZ0BAK RA3AET European Russia
            10140.00 PSK31
            +1h IZ0BAK UA3ADW European Russia - lotw
            10140.00 PSK31
            +1h IZ0BAK UA0AV Asiatic Russia - lotw
            10140.00 PSK31
            +1h WB6YTE AF6MW United States, CA
            CA 10140.53 PSK31
            +1h UA0AV RW3DQC European Russia
            10141.50 PSK31
            +1h SV8RV RA6MQ European Russia
            10106.50 CW
            +1h SV8RV RA6LCN European Russia
            10109.10 CW
            +1h SV8RV UR5EAJ Ukraine
            10126.10 CW
            +1h SV8RV RA9FN Asiatic Russia - lotw
            10103.20 CW
            +1h SV8RV UU5JIB Ukraine
            10106.20 CW
            +1h SV8RV RA1QEA European Russia - lotw
            10105.30 CW
            +1h SV8RV UA9CM Asiatic Russia
            10115.80 CW
            +2h K2MJ KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10140.00 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE KB9MT United States, IN
            IN 10140.32 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE KB9UM United States
            10140.32 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10140.32 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE A7CU Qatar
            10140.91 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE AA7CU United States, OR - lotw
            OR 10140.91 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE AA7AAC United States
            10140.91 PSK31
            +2h KB9UMT KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10141.42 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE KL7R/W7 Alaska
            10139.95 PSK31
            +2h WB6YTE KL7QR/W7 Alaska
            10139.95 PSK31
            +3h VE1CDD K3XI United States, VA
            VA 10139.91 PSK31
            +3h WB6YTE KE0OG United States, CO
            CO 10140.61 PSK31
            +3h WB6YTE KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10140.32 PSK31
            +3h WB6YTE K0GUZ United States, CO - lotw
            CO 10140.08 PSK31
            +3h VE1CDD KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10139.90 PSK31
            +3h WB6YTE AA7U United States, OR
            OR 10140.92 PSK31
            +3h WB6YTE AA7CU United States, OR - lotw
            OR 10140.87 PSK31
            +3h KB9UMT KB3MOW United States, PA - lotw
            PA 10140.00 PSK31
            +4h VE1CDD W6QE United States, CA - lotw
            CA 10139.90 PSK31
            +4h KD6IL AA7CU United States, OR - lotw
            OR 10141.64 PSK31
            +4h KB9UMT K2MJ United States, NY
            NY 10140.58 PSK31
            +4h VE1CDD KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10139.90 PSK31
            +4h WB6YTE KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10140.31 PSK31
            +4h K2MJ WB0PTO/9 United States
            10140.00 PSK31
            +4h VE1CDD K2MJ United States, NY
            NY 10139.90 PSK31
            +4h KB9UMT KB9UMT United States, IL
            IL 10140.00 PSK31
            +4h WB6YTE UA0K Asiatic Russia
            10140.44 PSK31
            +4h WB6YTE UA0FO Asiatic Russia
            10140.44 PSK31
            +4h UA0AV JL6VKB Japan
            10141.50 PSK31
            +5h VE1CDD K3XI United States, VA
            VA 10139.90 PSK31
            +5h VE1CDD KG4UPR United States, VA
            VA 10139.90 PSK31
            +5h VE1CDD KJ4IDH United States, FL
            FL 10139.90 PSK31
            +5h KB9UMT N5ZTW United States, TX
            TX 10140.00 PSK31
            +5h KB9UMT N5ZTW United States, TX
            TX 10140.96 PSK31
            +5h SV8RV JT1D Mongolia
            10114.10 CW
            +6h SV8RV JT1BH Mongolia
            10116.10 CW
            +6h KB9UMT K4OB United States, FL
            FL 10141.63 PSK31
            +6h SV8RV JT1B Mongolia
            10114.10 CW
            +6h SV8RV JT1AA Mongolia
            10125.20 CW

            Also it again is very difficult using the PSK Reporter later in the evening or after sunset because you're not sure who on the 30m band is left to monitor since if the monitor's don't report within a certain amount of time they drop off (I know because I watch this and mine runs 24x7 on 30m so I'm always monitoring but just not always something to report if no one is on the band!). I did address this issue to Philip from PSK Reporter and I think he was going to try to extend the monitor drop offs to 2 hours after no reporting….see the 30mdg message post reference and also the personal email from Philip which I responded to please extend 2 hours if possible……..

            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/message/4986
            ************** Personal email from Philip PSK Reporter below **********************
            You are roughly right -- the monitor drops off the chart after an hour of not reporting anything. The protocol used to report spots is connectionless and so there is no way that the server can tell when a monitor drops off.

            I have thought of adding a keep alive tickle to the reporting engine so that the server can tell when the monitor is still running. Unfortunately, it can't tell the frequency that the radio is tuned to (unless something is spotted). This becomes a real issue if the freqmode2hrd tool is being used to switch frequencies every 15 minutes.....

            I can certainly make the 1 hour a configurable parameter so that you could (say) set it to 2 hours and see if things look better -- however, it doesn't really give you the right answer.

            Any ideas?

            Philip

            ****************************************

            So those with me so far I guess from my view here anyway the band is open most anytime…of course keeping in mind the factors listed starting at the beginning of this post…but I do find in interesting that even with only a few monitors (sometime only 3 or 4) via PSK Reporter or PropNet I seem to be able to be reported by a few of them and or make contacts after sunset. In fact some of my best DX is in the middle of the night! (just staying awake to make the contacts is the problem).

            Thanks
            de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001

            --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <n6vl@...> wrote:

            >
            > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are closing
            after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
            >
            > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
            surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night I parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or two, but very very faint.
            >
            > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
            >
            > 73,
            >
            > Steve N6VL
            > DM03xu
            >

          • Don
            Don zl1atb, Thank you Don for your reply and view from there...very much appreciated and we thank you. I have to agree with you..there is not much activity
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              Don zl1atb,

              Thank you Don for your reply and view from there...very much appreciated and we thank you. I have to agree with you..there is not much activity your way although I do see more and more OC, AS ops getting on the band but still very few compared to EU which has the highest traffic then second is NA for 30m..my view on that from here too. And Yes Rob ZL3RG keeper of the key has the big Quad that makes the difference (maybe he will get on the band and let the key out) but then again I have spotted you many times on the band Don. Take care and thank you again.

              Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001


              --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:
              >
              > MY observation wasnt really that it closes down here in zl at sunset
              > because it dosent really. But we do get a 2nd boost later in the evening .If
              > the band is working, I have only been a 30 meter op for the last few years
              > and that's sunspot min, so I don't know what happens when it gets good.
              > There dosent seem to be many 30 meter psk ops in this part of the world and
              > I just don't hear what the northern part of the world hears. A few months
              > ago when the A index went up to about 7 I heard great dx here in Auckland.
              > So I look forward as we all do no doubt to more regular sunspot activity and
              > great propagation
              >
              > We seem to get propagation from late afternoon through the night until
              > 10.00 next morning, I got up at midnight last night and 2 Asiatic Russian
              > stations calling cq with no takers. I have been spotted by the odd VK in
              > the middle of the day here but never any further.
              >
              > Rob zl 3 rd in the lower south island has a big quad beam and a tower to
              > match so he hears differently than I do with my bit of wet string delta loop
              >
              > Don zl1atb
              >
              >
              >
              > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
              > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 8:06 a.m.
              > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Hello All,
              >
              > First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports and
              > posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas.
              >
              > Thanks to Steve N6VL (sorry but everyone in the Midwest has gone to bed many
              > nights before you West Coast guys get on the band...I see many CA ops CQ's
              > go unanswered on 30m), Andy K3UK, Don ZL1ATB, Delbert N5ZTW, and Barry M0IOW
              > for your observations about 30 meters and the `band closing after sunset'.
              >
              > I guess I'm going to be the minority here on this one and have to go against
              > the grain because in my area of the World (Peoria, IL EN50dp) this doesn't
              > seem be the case that the band closes after sunset. In saying this I want to
              > be clear that there are many things in play….of course first being
              > propagation paths according to your area, your antenna, the amount of time
              > you operate at night, those on the 30m band to actually make contacts with
              > after sunset, etc etc.
              >
              > With this being said over the last 4 years of operating almost exclusively
              > on 30m at many different times of the day and watching the reported 30m
              > contact data from many I have to say that it is my belief that the 30m band
              > does change before and after sunset and sunrise….in fact much of the DX
              > follows the greyline paths on 30m but then again I have to say that
              > according to my data here anyway this band doesn't die (does change though)
              > after sunset but the activity or operators working the digital part of the
              > band does die off. I think the main reason is that many do think the 30
              > meter band is not workable after sunset and they throw out a few CQ's and if
              > no replies in a few minutes they figure that if 20m is dead with propagation
              > and now 30m has no replies to their CQ's then down to the 40m and 80m bands
              > they go…..I see this often. I wish I had a dollar for every time I make a
              > contact after sunset or late into the night with others on 30m band and they
              > say "I thought this band was closed at night, good to see your signal".
              > >
              > Thanks
              > de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001
              >
              > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
              > <n6vl@> wrote:
              > >
              > > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are closing
              > after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
              > >
              > > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
              > surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this
              > time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night I
              > parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or
              > two, but very very faint.
              > >
              > > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
              > >
              > > 73,
              > >
              > > Steve N6VL
              > > DM03xu
              > >
              >
            • Don Leitch
              As far as I know Rob still has a broken antenna for 30 and a broken ankle so cant fix it, I see him playing on 20 every now and then so he s still alive just
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                As far as I know Rob still has a broken antenna for 30 and a broken ankle so cant fix it, I see him playing on 20 every now and then so he's still alive just not kicking

                Don zl1atb

                 

                From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
                Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 9:24 a.m.
                To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...

                 

                 

                Don zl1atb,

                Thank you Don for your reply and view from there...very much appreciated and we thank you. I have to agree with you..there is not much activity your way although I do see more and more OC, AS ops getting on the band but still very few compared to EU which has the highest traffic then second is NA for 30m..my view on that from here too. And Yes Rob ZL3RG keeper of the key has the big Quad that makes the difference (maybe he will get on the band and let the key out) but then again I have spotted you many times on the band Don. Take care and thank you again.

                Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001

                --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:

                >
                > MY observation wasnt really that it closes down here in zl at sunset
                > because it dosent really. But we do get a 2nd boost later in the evening
                .If
                > the band is working, I have only been a 30 meter op for the last few years
                > and that's sunspot min, so I don't know what happens when it gets good.
                > There dosent seem to be many 30 meter psk ops in this part of the world
                and
                > I just don't hear what the northern part of the world hears. A few months
                > ago when the A index went up to about 7 I heard great dx here in Auckland.
                > So I look forward as we all do no doubt to more regular sunspot activity
                and
                > great propagation
                >
                > We seem to get propagation from late afternoon through the night until
                > 10.00 next morning, I got up at midnight last night and 2 Asiatic Russian
                > stations calling cq with no takers. I have been spotted by the odd VK in
                > the middle of the day here but never any further.
                >
                > Rob zl 3 rd in the lower south island has a big quad beam and a tower to
                > match so he hears differently than I do with my bit of wet string delta
                loop
                >
                > Don zl1atb
                >
                >
                >
                > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
                > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 8:06 a.m.
                > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Hello All,
                >
                > First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports and
                > posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas.
                >
                > Thanks to Steve N6VL (sorry but everyone in the Midwest has gone to bed
                many
                > nights before you West Coast guys get on the band...I see many CA ops CQ's
                > go unanswered on 30m), Andy K3UK, Don ZL1ATB, Delbert N5ZTW, and Barry
                M0IOW
                > for your observations about 30 meters and the `band closing after sunset'.
                >
                > I guess I'm going to be the minority here on this one and have to go
                against
                > the grain because in my area of the World (Peoria, IL EN50dp) this doesn't
                > seem be the case that the band closes after sunset. In saying this I want
                to
                > be clear that there are many things in play….of course first being
                > propagation paths according to your area, your antenna, the amount of time
                > you operate at night, those on the 30m band to actually make contacts with
                > after sunset, etc etc.
                >
                > With this being said over the last 4 years of operating almost exclusively
                > on 30m at many different times of the day and watching the reported 30m
                > contact data from many I have to say that it is my belief that the 30m
                band
                > does change before and after sunset and sunrise….in fact much of the DX
                > follows the greyline paths on 30m but then again I have to say that
                > according to my data here anyway this band doesn't die (does change
                though)
                > after sunset but the activity or operators working the digital part of the
                > band does die off. I think the main reason is that many do think the 30
                > meter band is not workable after sunset and they throw out a few CQ's and
                if
                > no replies in a few minutes they figure that if 20m is dead with
                propagation
                > and now 30m has no replies to their CQ's then down to the 40m and 80m
                bands
                > they go…..I see this often. I wish I had a dollar for every time I make a
                > contact after sunset or late into the night with others on 30m band and
                they
                > say "I thought this band was closed at night, good to see your
                signal".
                > >
                > Thanks
                > de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001
                >
                > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
                > <n6vl@> wrote:
                > >
                > > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are
                closing
                > after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                > >
                > > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
                > surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this
                > time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night
                I
                > parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one
                or
                > two, but very very faint.
                > >
                > > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                > >
                > > 73,
                > >
                > > Steve N6VL
                > > DM03xu
                > >
                >

              • Don
                Don zl1atb, I think old Rob got the key out...he is kicking! Look for him soon...either ZL3RG or ZL30MDG that Quad is back in action! de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001
                Message 7 of 28 , Jan 5, 2010
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                  Don zl1atb,

                  I think old Rob got the key out...he is kicking! Look for him soon...either ZL3RG or ZL30MDG that Quad is back in action!

                  de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001


                  Rx at Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:52:49 UTC (very much night time in NA)
                  From ZL30MDG by KB9UMT Loc EN50dp
                  Frequency: 10.140 MHz (30m), PSK31
                  Distance: 8404 miles bearing 61°

                  Tue, 5 Jan 2010
                  Rcvr Band Mode Distance Time (UTC)
                  SA7AGE 30m PSK31 17781 kms 08:46:26
                  KG4UPR 30m PSK31 14336 kms 08:38:27
                  EB3JT 30m PSK31 19252 kms 08:07:46
                  EA1GDL 30m PSK31 19982 kms 07:49:27
                  DG3YHD 30m PSK31 18609 kms 07:07:38
                  KB9UMT 30m PSK31 13523 kms 06:52:49
                  VE1CDD 30m PSK31 15629 kms 06:32:05
                  KG6WUN 30m PSK31 11291 kms 05:19:10
                  W1BW 30m PSK31 14961 kms 05:15:58
                  KD6IL 30m PSK31 11144 kms 05:15:44


                  --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > As far as I know Rob still has a broken antenna for 30 and a broken ankle so
                  > cant fix it, I see him playing on 20 every now and then so he's still alive
                  > just not kicking
                  >
                  > Don zl1atb
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
                  > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 9:24 a.m.
                  > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Don zl1atb,
                  >
                  > Thank you Don for your reply and view from there...very much appreciated and
                  > we thank you. I have to agree with you..there is not much activity your way
                  > although I do see more and more OC, AS ops getting on the band but still
                  > very few compared to EU which has the highest traffic then second is NA for
                  > 30m..my view on that from here too. And Yes Rob ZL3RG keeper of the key has
                  > the big Quad that makes the difference (maybe he will get on the band and
                  > let the key out) but then again I have spotted you many times on the band
                  > Don. Take care and thank you again.
                  >
                  > Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001
                  >
                  > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Don Leitch"
                  > <don@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > MY observation wasnt really that it closes down here in zl at sunset
                  > > because it dosent really. But we do get a 2nd boost later in the evening
                  > .If
                  > > the band is working, I have only been a 30 meter op for the last few years
                  > > and that's sunspot min, so I don't know what happens when it gets good.
                  > > There dosent seem to be many 30 meter psk ops in this part of the world
                  > and
                  > > I just don't hear what the northern part of the world hears. A few months
                  > > ago when the A index went up to about 7 I heard great dx here in Auckland.
                  > > So I look forward as we all do no doubt to more regular sunspot activity
                  > and
                  > > great propagation
                  > >
                  > > We seem to get propagation from late afternoon through the night until
                  > > 10.00 next morning, I got up at midnight last night and 2 Asiatic Russian
                  > > stations calling cq with no takers. I have been spotted by the odd VK in
                  > > the middle of the day here but never any further.
                  > >
                  > > Rob zl 3 rd in the lower south island has a big quad beam and a tower to
                  > > match so he hears differently than I do with my bit of wet string delta
                  > loop
                  > >
                  > > Don zl1atb
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                  > Of Don
                  > > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 8:06 a.m.
                  > > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > > Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Hello All,
                  > >
                  > > First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports and
                  > > posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas.
                  > >
                  > > Thanks to Steve N6VL (sorry but everyone in the Midwest has gone to bed
                  > many
                  > > nights before you West Coast guys get on the band...I see many CA ops CQ's
                  > > go unanswered on 30m), Andy K3UK, Don ZL1ATB, Delbert N5ZTW, and Barry
                  > M0IOW
                  > > for your observations about 30 meters and the `band closing after sunset'.
                  > >
                  > > I guess I'm going to be the minority here on this one and have to go
                  > against
                  > > the grain because in my area of the World (Peoria, IL EN50dp) this doesn't
                  > > seem be the case that the band closes after sunset. In saying this I want
                  > to
                  > > be clear that there are many things in play..of course first being
                  > > propagation paths according to your area, your antenna, the amount of time
                  > > you operate at night, those on the 30m band to actually make contacts with
                  > > after sunset, etc etc.
                  > >
                  > > With this being said over the last 4 years of operating almost exclusively
                  > > on 30m at many different times of the day and watching the reported 30m
                  > > contact data from many I have to say that it is my belief that the 30m
                  > band
                  > > does change before and after sunset and sunrise..in fact much of the DX
                  > > follows the greyline paths on 30m but then again I have to say that
                  > > according to my data here anyway this band doesn't die (does change
                  > though)
                  > > after sunset but the activity or operators working the digital part of the
                  > > band does die off. I think the main reason is that many do think the 30
                  > > meter band is not workable after sunset and they throw out a few CQ's and
                  > if
                  > > no replies in a few minutes they figure that if 20m is dead with
                  > propagation
                  > > and now 30m has no replies to their CQ's then down to the 40m and 80m
                  > bands
                  > > they go...I see this often. I wish I had a dollar for every time I make a
                  > > contact after sunset or late into the night with others on 30m band and
                  > they
                  > > say "I thought this band was closed at night, good to see your signal".
                  > > >
                  > > Thanks
                  > > de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001
                  > >
                  > > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
                  > > <n6vl@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are
                  > closing
                  > > after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                  > > >
                  > > > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
                  > > surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this
                  > > time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night
                  > I
                  > > parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one
                  > or
                  > > two, but very very faint.
                  > > >
                  > > > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                  > > >
                  > > > 73,
                  > > >
                  > > > Steve N6VL
                  > > > DM03xu
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                • Don Leitch
                  Yes I saw him last night him and a zl2 both hearing stuff I can only dream of .lots of short skip only and both of them wiping me out oh well the noise levels
                  Message 8 of 28 , Jan 5, 2010
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                    Yes I saw him last night him and a zl2 both hearing stuff I can only dream of .lots of short skip only and both of them  wiping me out oh well the noise levels at s 9 as well.

                    Don zl1atb   

                     

                    From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
                    Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 5:23 p.m.
                    To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset.......ZL3RG/ZL30MDG back on

                     

                     

                    Don zl1atb,

                    I think old Rob got the key out...he is kicking! Look for him soon...either ZL3RG or ZL30MDG that Quad is back in action!

                    de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001

                    Rx at Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:52:49 UTC (very much night time in NA)
                    From ZL30MDG by KB9UMT Loc EN50dp
                    Frequency: 10.140 MHz (30m), PSK31
                    Distance: 8404 miles bearing 61°

                    Tue, 5 Jan 2010
                    Rcvr Band Mode Distance Time (UTC)
                    SA7AGE 30m PSK31 17781 kms 08:46:26
                    KG4UPR 30m PSK31 14336 kms 08:38:27
                    EB3JT 30m PSK31 19252 kms 08:07:46
                    EA1GDL 30m PSK31 19982 kms 07:49:27
                    DG3YHD 30m PSK31 18609 kms 07:07:38
                    KB9UMT 30m PSK31 13523 kms 06:52:49
                    VE1CDD 30m PSK31 15629 kms 06:32:05
                    KG6WUN 30m PSK31 11291 kms 05:19:10
                    W1BW 30m PSK31 14961 kms 05:15:58
                    KD6IL 30m PSK31 11144 kms 05:15:44

                    --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:

                    >
                    > As far as I know Rob still has a broken antenna for 30 and a broken ankle
                    so
                    > cant fix it, I see him playing on 20 every now and then so he's still
                    alive
                    > just not kicking
                    >
                    > Don zl1atb
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don
                    > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 9:24 a.m.
                    > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    > Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Don zl1atb,
                    >
                    > Thank you Don for your reply and view from there...very much appreciated and
                    > we thank you. I have to agree with you..there is not much activity your
                    way
                    > although I do see more and more OC, AS ops getting on the band but still
                    > very few compared to EU which has the highest traffic then second is NA
                    for
                    > 30m..my view on that from here too. And Yes Rob ZL3RG keeper of the key
                    has
                    > the big Quad that makes the difference (maybe he will get on the band and
                    > let the key out) but then again I have spotted you many times on the band
                    > Don. Take care and thank you again.
                    >
                    > Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001
                    >
                    > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Don Leitch"
                    > <don@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > MY observation wasnt really that it closes down here in zl at sunset
                    > > because it dosent really. But we do get a 2nd boost later in the
                    evening
                    > .If
                    > > the band is working, I have only been a 30 meter op for the last few
                    years
                    > > and that's sunspot min, so I don't know what happens when it gets
                    good.
                    > > There dosent seem to be many 30 meter psk ops in this part of the
                    world
                    > and
                    > > I just don't hear what the northern part of the world hears. A few
                    months
                    > > ago when the A index went up to about 7 I heard great dx here in
                    Auckland.
                    > > So I look forward as we all do no doubt to more regular sunspot
                    activity
                    > and
                    > > great propagation
                    > >
                    > > We seem to get propagation from late afternoon through the night
                    until
                    > > 10.00 next morning, I got up at midnight last night and 2 Asiatic
                    Russian
                    > > stations calling cq with no takers. I have been spotted by the odd VK
                    in
                    > > the middle of the day here but never any further.
                    > >
                    > > Rob zl 3 rd in the lower south island has a big quad beam and a tower
                    to
                    > > match so he hears differently than I do with my bit of wet string
                    delta
                    > loop
                    > >
                    > > Don zl1atb
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
                    > Of Don
                    > > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2010 8:06 a.m.
                    > > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > > Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Hello All,
                    > >
                    > > First thanks to Thomas NZ4O for the good data and propagation reports
                    and
                    > > posting them to this group, much appreciated Thomas.
                    > >
                    > > Thanks to Steve N6VL (sorry but everyone in the Midwest has gone to
                    bed
                    > many
                    > > nights before you West Coast guys get on the band...I see many CA ops
                    CQ's
                    > > go unanswered on 30m), Andy K3UK, Don ZL1ATB, Delbert N5ZTW, and
                    Barry
                    > M0IOW
                    > > for your observations about 30 meters and the `band closing after
                    sunset'.
                    > >
                    > > I guess I'm going to be the minority here on this one and have to go
                    > against
                    > > the grain because in my area of the World (Peoria, IL EN50dp) this
                    doesn't
                    > > seem be the case that the band closes after sunset. In saying this I
                    want
                    > to
                    > > be clear that there are many things in play..of course first being
                    > > propagation paths according to your area, your antenna, the amount of
                    time
                    > > you operate at night, those on the 30m band to actually make contacts
                    with
                    > > after sunset, etc etc.
                    > >
                    > > With this being said over the last 4 years of operating almost
                    exclusively
                    > > on 30m at many different times of the day and watching the reported
                    30m
                    > > contact data from many I have to say that it is my belief that the
                    30m
                    > band
                    > > does change before and after sunset and sunrise..in fact much of the
                    DX
                    > > follows the greyline paths on 30m but then again I have to say that
                    > > according to my data here anyway this band doesn't die (does change
                    > though)
                    > > after sunset but the activity or operators working the digital part
                    of the
                    > > band does die off. I think the main reason is that many do think the
                    30
                    > > meter band is not workable after sunset and they throw out a few CQ's
                    and
                    > if
                    > > no replies in a few minutes they figure that if 20m is dead with
                    > propagation
                    > > and now 30m has no replies to their CQ's then down to the 40m and 80m
                    > bands
                    > > they go...I see this often. I wish I had a dollar for every time I
                    make a
                    > > contact after sunset or late into the night with others on 30m band
                    and
                    > they
                    > > say "I thought this band was closed at night, good to see your
                    signal".
                    > > >
                    > > Thanks
                    > > de kb9umt Don 30MDG#0001
                    > >
                    > > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                    <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
                    > > <n6vl@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course)
                    are
                    > closing
                    > > after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                    > > >
                    > > > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and
                    was
                    > > surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly,
                    this
                    > > time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last
                    night
                    > I
                    > > parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw
                    one
                    > or
                    > > two, but very very faint.
                    > > >
                    > > > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                    > > >
                    > > > 73,
                    > > >
                    > > > Steve N6VL
                    > > > DM03xu
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >

                  • Laurie, VK3AMA
                    Just a quick note that any outstanding Anza & VK awards will be processed after 11-Jan. de Laurie, VK3AMA
                    Message 9 of 28 , Jan 5, 2010
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                      Just a quick note that any outstanding Anza & VK awards will be
                      processed after 11-Jan.

                      de Laurie, VK3AMA
                    • Steve
                      It is Saturday morning here in Southern California and 30 meters is alive w/ digital signals. Even heard Belgium earlier when the gray line was still in
                      Message 10 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                        It is Saturday morning here in Southern California and 30 meters is alive w/ digital signals. Even heard Belgium earlier when the gray line was still in effect.

                        The other evening I heard W0PE calling CQ on PSK and thought the band was still open. But he was only 13 miles from me. I should have answered but didn't have the time.

                        Hopefully the MUF will stay higher after sunset one of these days.

                        73,

                        Steve N6VL
                        DM03xu
                      • raf3151019
                        ... Hello Steve, The conditions on all bands have actually deteriorated since the new cycle began. Thomas Giella sends in his forecasts once a month, have a
                        Message 11 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                          --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <n6vl@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are closing after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                          >
                          > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night I parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or two, but very very faint.
                          >
                          > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                          >
                          > 73,
                          >
                          > Steve N6VL
                          > DM03xu

                          Hello Steve,

                          The conditions on all bands have actually deteriorated since the new cycle began. Thomas Giella sends in his forecasts once a month, have a look at those and they will give you indications of the current band conditions. The forecast was for the 30 metre band to close at subset

                          Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
                          >
                        • Mike
                          Although the we have Sun Spots from time to time the Solar Flux Index remains low, which is the most important thing to watch. 30m up needs to be at least in
                          Message 12 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                            Although the we have Sun Spots from time to time the Solar Flux Index remains low, which is the most important thing to watch.  30m up needs to be at least in the 90’s to have the bands open into the night.  We need some of those huge Solar FlaresJ

                             

                            Mike

                             

                            From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raf3151019

                             



                            --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <n6vl@...> wrote:

                            >
                            > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are closing
                            after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                            >
                            > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
                            surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night I parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or two, but very very faint.
                            >
                            > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                            >
                            > 73,
                            >
                            > Steve N6VL
                            > DM03xu

                            Hello Steve,

                            The conditions on all bands have actually deteriorated since the new cycle began. Thomas Giella sends in his forecasts once a month, have a look at those and they will give you indications of the current band conditions. The forecast was for the 30 metre band to close at subset

                            Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
                            >

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                          • zl3rg
                            30 Meters is alive in lower ZL at night right now (0800 UTC to 1600 UTC)- first on long path and then on short path .... this is our night - north s day!! Rob
                            Message 13 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                              30 Meters is alive in lower ZL at night right now (0800 UTC to 1600 UTC)- first on long path and then on short path .... this is our night - north's day!!

                              Rob
                              ZL3RG

                              --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <noddy1211@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Although the we have Sun Spots from time to time the Solar Flux Index
                              > remains low, which is the most important thing to watch. 30m up needs to be
                              > at least in the 90's to have the bands open into the night. We need some of
                              > those huge Solar FlaresJ
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Mike
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                              > raf3151019
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
                              > <n6vl@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are closing
                              > after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                              > >
                              > > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
                              > surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this
                              > time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night I
                              > parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one or
                              > two, but very very faint.
                              > >
                              > > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                              > >
                              > > 73,
                              > >
                              > > Steve N6VL
                              > > DM03xu
                              >
                              > Hello Steve,
                              >
                              > The conditions on all bands have actually deteriorated since the new cycle
                              > began. Thomas Giella sends in his forecasts once a month, have a look at
                              > those and they will give you indications of the current band conditions. The
                              > forecast was for the 30 metre band to close at subset
                              >
                              > Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
                              > >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > No virus found in this incoming message.
                              > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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                            • Mike
                              Might be because you are in your summer, longer days and more chance to get the some ionization going. It will improve here when we get into summer. Mike
                              Message 14 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                                Might be because you are in your summer, longer days and more chance to get the some ionization going.  It will improve here when we get into summer.

                                 

                                Mike

                                 

                                From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of zl3rg
                                Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 1:40 PM
                                To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...

                                 

                                 

                                30 Meters is alive in lower ZL at night right now (0800 UTC to 1600 UTC)- first on long path and then on short path .... this is our night - north's day!!

                                Rob
                                ZL3RG

                                --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <noddy1211@...> wrote:

                                >
                                > Although the we have Sun Spots from time to time the Solar Flux Index
                                > remains low, which is the most important thing to watch. 30m up needs to
                                be
                                > at least in the 90's to have the bands open into the night. We need some
                                of
                                > those huge Solar FlaresJ
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Mike
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                                [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                                > raf3151019
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                                <mailto:30MDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Steve"
                                > <n6vl@> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > I am mystified that 30 meters and the higher bands (of course) are
                                closing
                                > after sunset when the solar flux has risen the past few months.
                                > >
                                > > I've been off the air a few months and returned in December and was
                                > surprised to find the band closing so early. If I recall correctly, this
                                > time last year 30 meters was still open for a while after dusk. Last night
                                I
                                > parked the VFO on 10140 and watched the waterfall for signals. I saw one
                                or
                                > two, but very very faint.
                                > >
                                > > Any thoughts on this? Are my observations correct?
                                > >
                                > > 73,
                                > >
                                > > Steve N6VL
                                > > DM03xu
                                >
                                > Hello Steve,
                                >
                                > The conditions on all bands have actually deteriorated since the new cycle
                                > began. Thomas Giella sends in his forecasts once a month, have a look at
                                > those and they will give you indications of the current band conditions.
                                The
                                > forecast was for the 30 metre band to close at subset
                                >
                                > Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
                                > >
                                >
                                >
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                              • Laurie, VK3AMA
                                All outstanding awards have been processed. de Laurie, VK3AMA
                                Message 15 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                                  All outstanding awards have been processed.

                                  de Laurie, VK3AMA



                                  Laurie, VK3AMA wrote:
                                  > Just a quick note that any outstanding Anza & VK awards will be
                                  > processed after 11-Jan.
                                  >
                                  > de Laurie, VK3AMA
                                  >
                                  >
                                • Don
                                  Laurie VK3AMA, Thanks for the update on the awards processed and if you don t mind can you maybe give a quick overview of the new things added on the Ham Spots
                                  Message 16 of 28 , Jan 9, 2010
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                                    Laurie VK3AMA,

                                    Thanks for the update on the awards processed and if you don't mind can you maybe give a quick overview of the new things added on the Ham Spots for digital spots that you have been working on?

                                    http://www.hamspots.net/30/

                                    It might be good information for those that use those spot pages or it might be of interest for those new here that might not be using it and want to give it a look over.

                                    Thank you for all the hard work you put into the Ham Spot site!

                                    Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001



                                    --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie, VK3AMA" <groups7@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > All outstanding awards have been processed.
                                    >
                                    > de Laurie, VK3AMA
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Laurie, VK3AMA wrote:
                                    > > Just a quick note that any outstanding Anza & VK awards will be
                                    > > processed after 11-Jan.
                                    > >
                                    > > de Laurie, VK3AMA
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >
                                  • Laurie, VK3AMA
                                    Hi Don & group, An update.... not much has been added, but have been working on several enhancements, that hopefully go live in the next month or so. I have
                                    Message 17 of 28 , Jan 10, 2010
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                                      Hi Don & group,

                                      An update.... not much has been added, but have been working on several enhancements, that hopefully go live in the next month or so.

                                      I have quietly added a delete button to local spots. You now have the ability to delete your own local spots (look for the cross).

                                      JT65 page added and has been very active.

                                      Most enhancements are dependant on me getting a new Callsign/Password login completed. It is working on my development server, but needs to be cleaned up and made presentable. Each user (unless they are just browsing) of the site that wants to spot and use the new alarm features (more on that later) will need too register their callsign and a preferred password (verified by automated email), similar to how most sites work, qrz, eham, etc.

                                      This callsign registration is important to allow spotting to the Cluster (new feature coming). I wish to avoid the situation that currently exists where people can use faked or pirated callsigns on DXSummit to post to the Cluster usually fake spots designed to cause people to get angry and annoyed. Authenticated login will prevent HamSpots from being used in this fashion and make it easy to ban people due to misuse.

                                      Other enhancements, in no particular order...
                                      1. Spotting to the Cluster.
                                      2. Public notice board. Individuals can post (and delete their own) notice. This did appear briefly over Christmas during my testing.
                                      3. FAQ section to help explain HamSpots, its policies and how to use features. This is ready to go, but I want to have as many of the FAQ's as possible completed before going live.
                                      4. Customised local and cluster spot displays (a few months for this one).
                                      5. Improved Local Spots display.
                                      6. Support for narrower PC Screen widths. Currently only supports 1000 pixels or greater without horizontal scrolling.
                                      7. email alerts for wanted callsigns.
                                      8. WAS email alerts, configurable for each band.

                                      There are some others that are still rather embryonic that I may not pursue so wont announce at present.

                                      I am open to suggestions.

                                      73 de Laurie, VK3AMA


                                      Don wrote:
                                      Laurie VK3AMA,
                                      
                                      Thanks for the update on the awards processed and if you don't mind can you maybe give a quick overview of the new things added on the Ham Spots for digital spots that you have been working on?  
                                      
                                      http://www.hamspots.net/30/
                                      
                                      It might be good information for those that use those spot pages or it might be of interest for those new here that might not be using it and want to give it a look over.
                                      
                                      Thank you for all the hard work you put into the Ham Spot site!
                                      
                                      Don kb9umt 30MDG#0001
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie, VK3AMA" <groups7@...> wrote:
                                        
                                      All outstanding awards have been processed.
                                      
                                      de Laurie, VK3AMA
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      Laurie, VK3AMA wrote:
                                          
                                      Just a quick note that any outstanding Anza & VK awards will be 
                                      processed after 11-Jan.
                                      
                                      de Laurie, VK3AMA
                                      
                                      
                                            
                                      
                                      
                                      
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                                    • Steve
                                      Well it finally happened! The other evening, forget which one, the A index was rather high, around 10. VOA Prop said conditions were poor. 30 meters was still
                                      Message 18 of 28 , Feb 4, 2010
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                                        Well it finally happened! The other evening, forget which one, the A index was rather high, around 10. VOA Prop said conditions were poor. 30 meters was still hopping a few hours after sunset, while 20 meters had shut down.

                                        Now that is the 30 meters I remember from a year or more ago! Hope to see more of it.

                                        73,

                                        Steve N6VL
                                      • Don Leitch
                                        Well A index is at 11 now and solar x ray level is quiet and astral island dx has been going strong Making heaps of pileups for the last few days I have head
                                        Message 19 of 28 , Feb 4, 2010
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                                          Well A index is at 11 now and solar x ray

                                          level is quiet and astral island dx has been going strong

                                           Making heaps of pileups for the last few days I have head him on rtty and psk all day

                                          So something is working here in zl

                                          Don zl1atb

                                          From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
                                          Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 4:15 a.m.
                                          To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...

                                           

                                           



                                          Well it finally happened! The other evening, forget which one, the A index was rather high, around 10. VOA Prop said conditions were poor. 30 meters was still hopping a few hours after sunset, while 20 meters had shut down.

                                          Now that is the 30 meters I remember from a year or more ago! Hope to see more of it.

                                          73,

                                          Steve N6VL

                                        • aa1ik@ymail.com
                                          Hello Everyone, The A index is history! Its what happened yesterday. The K index is what is happening right now! Its a 4 hour history. This is what we should
                                          Message 20 of 28 , Feb 5, 2010
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                                            Hello Everyone,

                                            The A index is history! Its what happened yesterday.
                                            The K index is what is happening right now! Its a 4 hour history. This is what we should be paying attention too.

                                            http://www.solarcycle24.com/

                                            Check it out here. This is a great place for space Wx

                                            73 de

                                            AA1IK/P


                                            Ernest Gregoire


                                            Geezer in the park


                                            --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > Well A index is at 11 now and solar x ray
                                            >
                                            > level is quiet and astral island dx has been going strong
                                            >
                                          • Don Leitch
                                            As soon as I said the A was 11 it dropped to nothing grrrrrrrrr Yeah I like that solar cycle page I watch it about 5 times a day its my addiction lol And
                                            Message 21 of 28 , Feb 5, 2010
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                                              As soon as I said the A was 11  it dropped to nothing grrrrrrrrr

                                              Yeah I like that solar cycle page I watch it about 5 times a day its my addiction lol

                                              And usually works for me, and when the “A” comes up, the next day is usually open as long as there is no flare noise, Its what happens down under.

                                              But hey if a K works for you good on yaah mate hope you have a wonderful time

                                               

                                              From: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:30MDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aa1ik@...
                                              Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 3:53 a.m.
                                              To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: [30MDG] Re: Band closing after sunset...

                                               

                                               

                                              Hello Everyone,

                                              The A index is history! Its what happened yesterday.
                                              The K index is what is happening right now! Its a 4 hour history. This is what we should be paying attention too.

                                              http://www.solarcycle24.com/

                                              Check it out here. This is a great place for space Wx

                                              73 de

                                              AA1IK/P

                                              Ernest Gregoire

                                              Geezer in the park

                                              --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:

                                              >
                                              > Well A index is at 11 now and solar x ray
                                              >
                                              > level is quiet and astral island dx has been going strong
                                              >

                                            • ve3oij
                                              ... I was up late last night... from 0630-0815 UTC the 30 meter band was dead here in eastern VE3. 73 de VE3OIJ -Darin
                                              Message 22 of 28 , Feb 7, 2010
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                                                --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Don Leitch" <don@...> wrote:
                                                >
                                                > As soon as I said the A was 11 it dropped to nothing grrrrrrrrr
                                                >
                                                > Yeah I like that solar cycle page I watch it about 5 times a day its my
                                                > addiction lol

                                                I was up late last night... from 0630-0815 UTC the 30 meter band was dead here in eastern VE3.

                                                73 de VE3OIJ
                                                -Darin
                                              • Barry
                                                Hi Darin VE3OIJ, yes 30m has been dead here after sunset, (but must admit not monitored it much in the evening lately.) There were some stations late in the
                                                Message 23 of 28 , Feb 7, 2010
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                                                  Hi Darin VE3OIJ, yes 30m has been dead here after sunset,
                                                  (but must admit not monitored it much in the evening lately.)
                                                  There were some stations late in the evening from Argentina around for a
                                                  week or so, but couldn't get back to them :-(
                                                  One station did respond to say my signal was to weak.
                                                  But at around 23.00 UTC last night several stations from Argentina were on
                                                  the waterfall again.
                                                  And I managed to work LU9XT in BPSK31, the bonus was he is in IOTA SA-008
                                                  This was a new DXCC for me on 30m.
                                                  We just never know what 30m is going to throw up.
                                                  73
                                                  Barry, MØIOW. 30 Meter Digital Group #0013
                                                  http://www.30mdg.net


                                                  > I was up late last night... from 0630-0815 UTC the 30 meter band was
                                                  > dead here in eastern VE3.
                                                  >
                                                  > 73 de VE3OIJ
                                                  > -Darin
                                                • zl3rg
                                                  1700 UTC right now and band active - can see 5 French stations on PSK31 - very strong but not a lot else hi!! 73 de Rob ZL3RG
                                                  Message 24 of 28 , Feb 7, 2010
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                                                    1700 UTC right now and band active - can see 5 French stations on PSK31 - very strong but not a lot else hi!!

                                                    73 de Rob
                                                    ZL3RG

                                                    --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Barry" <Barry@...> wrote:
                                                    >
                                                    > Hi Darin VE3OIJ, yes 30m has been dead here after sunset,
                                                    > (but must admit not monitored it much in the evening lately.)
                                                    > There were some stations late in the evening from Argentina around for a
                                                    > week or so, but couldn't get back to them :-(
                                                    > One station did respond to say my signal was to weak.
                                                    > But at around 23.00 UTC last night several stations from Argentina were on
                                                    > the waterfall again.
                                                    > And I managed to work LU9XT in BPSK31, the bonus was he is in IOTA SA-008
                                                    > This was a new DXCC for me on 30m.
                                                    > We just never know what 30m is going to throw up.
                                                    > 73
                                                    > Barry, MØIOW. 30 Meter Digital Group #0013
                                                    > http://www.30mdg.net
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > > I was up late last night... from 0630-0815 UTC the 30 meter band was
                                                    > > dead here in eastern VE3.
                                                    > >
                                                    > > 73 de VE3OIJ
                                                    > > -Darin
                                                    >
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