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  • Larry Fields
    I am in region 3 area and the NTC told my group PARA and PARL that 30m is off limits during daylight hours, which is a shame as some of the african stations
    Message 1 of 1 , Jan 20, 2013
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      I am in region 3 area and the NTC told my group PARA and PARL that 30m
      is off limits during daylight hours, which is a shame as some of the
      african stations are active here.

      73 de Larry,du1/n6hpx
      temporarily in Thailand enroute to singapore

      On 1/20/13, 30MDG@yahoogroups.com <30MDG@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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      > 30 Meter Band Digital Activity -30MDG Group
      > 4 New Messages
      > Digest #1687
      > 1
      > Saturday 30m SSTV MP73-N (<500hz) 1700-1900 utc, 1/19/2013, 11:00 am by
      > 2a
      > Re: 30 meters Digital Mode legal restrictions? by "Don" kb9umt
      > 2b
      > Re: 30 meters Digital Mode legal restrictions? by "Robin Hodgson"
      > robin_a_hodgson
      > 3a
      > Re: 30 metre antenna upgrade by "kd1ia" ko1hqrp
      >
      > Messages
      > 1
      > Saturday 30m SSTV MP73-N (<500hz) 1700-1900 utc, 1/19/2013, 11:00 am
      > Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:01 pm (PST) . Posted by:
      > Reminder from: 30MDG Yahoo! Group
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30MDG/cal
      >
      > Saturday 30m SSTV MP73-N (<500hz) 1700-1900 utc
      > Saturday January 19, 2013
      > 11:00 am - 1:00 pm
      > Location: 30m 10.132 (Region II) 10.144 (Region I) SSTV-N (MMSTV MP73-N)
      >
      > Notes:
      > Join in and give narrow mode SSTV a try on the 30 Meter Band!
      > Starting in 2011 the 30m SSTV Yahoo Group has decided to dedicate a day
      > (Saturdays) and time (1700 - 1900 utc) frame to join others that might be
      > interested in some SSTV-N on 30 Meters so if you are interested try some
      > SSTV (MMSTV mode MP73-N) 10.132 (Region II) or 10.144 (Region I)..please
      > join in!
      >
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/30mSSTV/
      > Subscribe: 30mSSTV-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
      >
      > http://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=K3UK%27s_Quick_and_Dirty_Guide_to_Narrow_Bandwidth_SSTV
      >
      > 30m SSTV SPOTS:
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      > 2a
      > Re: 30 meters Digital Mode legal restrictions?
      > Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:
      > "Don" kb9umt
      > Hi Robin 9H1ZZ,
      >
      > Some very good points Robin. I would like to see every one post here their
      > information - might be interesting to see (for sure some ops are not
      > following their own countries rules or the IARU suggestions).
      >
      > Below would be at a fast glance what I found for my area of the
      > World....USA, Region 2 - info from USA FCC rules/regs which we must follow
      > first, IARU suggestions for Region 2, and ARRL suggested band/considerate
      > band plan.
      >
      > KB9UMT Don 30MDG#0001
      > www.30mdg.net
      >
      > ***************** FCC PART 97 RULES *****************
      >
      > http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=591b13104ef8e164d7ab263968c5883b&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title47/47cfr97_main_02.tpl
      >
      > http://www.arrl.org/part-97-amateur-radio
      >
      > 97.301 Authorized frequency bands
      > Wavelength band ITU region 1 ITU region 2 ITU region 3 Sharing
      > requirementssee§ 97.303
      > (paragraph)
      > MF kHz kHz kHz
      > 30 m 10.100-10.150 10.100-10.150 10.100-10.150 (j)
      >
      > 97.303 Frequency sharing requirements
      > (j) Amateur stations transmitting in the 30 m band must not cause harmful
      > interference to, and must accept interference from, stations by other
      > nations in the fixed service. The licensee of the amateur station must make
      > all necessary adjustments, including termination of transmissions, if
      > harmful interference is caused.
      >
      > 97.305 Authorized emission types
      > Wavelength band Frequencies Emission types authorized Standards see §
      > 97.307(f), paragraph:
      > 30 m Entire band RTTY, data (3).
      >
      > 97.307 Emission standards.
      > (3) Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified digital code listed in §
      > 97.309(a) of this part may be transmitted. The symbol rate must not exceed
      > 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift keying, the frequency shift between mark
      > and space must not exceed 1 kHz.
      >
      > ************** IARU REGION 2 ***********************
      >
      > http://www.iaru.org/uploads/1/3/0/7/13073366/r2_band_plan.pdf
      > IARU REGION 2: The Americas
      > 30 meter band
      > 10100 - 10130 200 CW
      > CW QRP Centre of activity 10116 kHz
      > 10130 - 10140 500 All narrow band digimodes
      > 10140 - 10150 2700 All modes, digimodes, no phone (SSB, AM or DV)
      > Explanations
      > Narrow band modes All modes up to 500 Hz bandwidth including CW, RTTY, PSK
      > and others.
      > Digimodes Includes, but not limited to PSK31, PSK63, RTTY, MT63 and
      > others within bandwidth limits.
      > Notes
      > 1. CW QSOs are accepted across all bands, except within beacon segments.
      > 2. Contest activity shall not take place on the 136 kHz, 10, 18 and 24 MHz
      > bands.
      > 3. On the 136 kHz band, available in some of the Region 2 countries, only
      > narrowband modes may be used.
      > 4. The term "automatically controlled data stations" includes Store and
      > Forward
      > stations.
      > 5. Transmitting frequencies: The announced frequencies in the band plan are
      > understood as "transmitted frequencies" and not those of the suppressed
      > carrier!
      > 6. Unattended transmitting stations: IARU member societies are requested to
      > limit
      > this activity on the HF bands. It is recommended that any unattended
      > transmitting
      > stations on HF shall be activated only under operator control except for
      > beacons
      > agreed with the IARU beacon coordinator, or specially licensed experimental
      > stations.
      > 7. Clear frequencies: Operating in accordance with band plans is good
      > amateur radio
      > practice, especially with respect to centre of activity frequencies.
      > However,
      > amateurs should understand that during periods of intense activity it may be
      > unrealistic to expect a perfectly clear operating frequency.
      >
      > ************* ARRL Band Plan/info *******************
      >
      > http://www.arrl.org/frequency-allocations
      > 30 Meters
      > Maximum power, 200 watts PEP. Amateurs must avoid interference to the fixed
      > service outside the US.
      > General, Advanced, Amateur Extra classes:
      > 10.100-10.150 MHz: CW, RTTY/Data
      >
      > http://www.arrl.org/files/file/conop.pdf
      > 10.106 QRP CW calling frequency
      > 10.130-10.140 RTTY/Data
      > 10.140-10.150 Automatically controlled data station
      >
      > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Robin" wrote:
      >>
      >> The excellent work that Ian, G3NRW has performed in providing 30MDG users
      >> with his band utilisation chart shows that the band plan issued by IARU
      >> (at least in Region 1) is far from being respected. Hopefully this will
      >> spur the IARU to re-assess their recommendations.
      >>
      >> However, of more concern is whether the licencing administrations in
      >> various countries are legally restricting use of digital modes from
      >> certain portions of the 30 meter band. Each of us is responsible for
      >> adhering to our country's spectrum allocations according to the terms and
      >> conditions of our licences. I strongly recommend that we all check these,
      >> since I know that 30 meter digital mode restrictions do exist in some
      >> countries. Unfortunately, not all administrations make their amateur radio
      >> spectrum allocations publicly available, or advise when they modify them.
      >>
      >> If anyone would like to forward to me (off this list) their country's
      >> current 30 meter allocations (only where there is a restriction on Digital
      >> Modes), then I would be pleased to collect these and prepare them for a
      >> commented presentation to this group.
      >> Thanks to all for your co-operation
      >>
      >> Robin, 9H1ZZ
      >> off list replies to: robin@...
      >>
      >
      > Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) .
      > Top ^
      > 2b
      > Re: 30 meters Digital Mode legal restrictions?
      > Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:00 am (PST) . Posted by:
      > "Robin Hodgson" robin_a_hodgson
      >
      >
      > Thanks for your reply, Don.From this, I summarise US Federal Regulations:30
      > m Frequencies.. 10.100 - 10.150 MHzModes.................. CW, RTTY, Data
      > Bandwidth............ <300 bauds or < 1000 Hz FSKPower................. <
      > 200 watts PEP
      > This is the sort of information I am looking for by country, since these are
      > the legal licence definitions.
      > Although all countries are bound by the ITU Spectrum Allocations, I know
      > some countries are much more restrictive in their implementations than the
      > USA.It would be helpful for all of us to be aware of the constraints.
      > Presenting the definitions as used by other countries may also help to
      > influence some licencing authorities to accept a review of their own
      > legislation.
      > If MDG members could send me their country licence rules, I will prepare a
      > summary for publication to the group.Please feel free to send information
      > either to this Yahoo Group or to me personally at robin@...
      >
      > Thanks and 73
      > Robin, 9H1ZZ
      > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
      > From: dhobson123@...
      > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:35:44 +0000
      > Subject: [30MDG] Re: 30 meters Digital Mode legal restrictions?
      >
      > Hi Robin 9H1ZZ,
      >
      > Some very good points Robin. I would like to see every one post here their
      > information - might be interesting to see (for sure some ops are not
      > following their own countries rules or the IARU suggestions).
      >
      > Below would be at a fast glance what I found for my area of the
      > World....USA, Region 2 - info from USA FCC rules/regs which we must follow
      > first, IARU suggestions for Region 2, and ARRL suggested band/considerate
      > band plan.
      >
      > KB9UMT Don 30MDG#0001
      >
      > www.30mdg.net
      >
      > ***************** FCC PART 97 RULES *****************
      >
      > http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=591b13104ef8e164d7ab263968c5883b&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title47/47cfr97_main_02.tpl
      >
      > http://www.arrl.org/part-97-amateur-radio
      >
      > 97.301 Authorized frequency bands
      >
      > Wavelength band ITU region 1 ITU region 2 ITU region 3 Sharing
      > requirementssee§ 97.303
      >
      > (paragraph)
      >
      > MF kHz kHz kHz
      >
      > 30 m 10.100-10.150 10.100-10.150 10.100-10.150 (j)
      >
      > 97.303 Frequency sharing requirements
      >
      > (j) Amateur stations transmitting in the 30 m band must not cause harmful
      > interference to, and must accept interference from, stations by other
      > nations in the fixed service. The licensee of the amateur station must make
      > all necessary adjustments, including termination of transmissions, if
      > harmful interference is caused.
      >
      > 97.305 Authorized emission types
      >
      > Wavelength band Frequencies Emission types authorized Standards see §
      > 97.307(f), paragraph:
      >
      > 30 m Entire band RTTY, data (3).
      >
      > 97.307 Emission standards.
      >
      > (3) Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified digital code listed in §
      > 97.309(a) of this part may be transmitted. The symbol rate must not exceed
      > 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift keying, the frequency shift between mark
      > and space must not exceed 1 kHz.
      >
      > ************** IARU REGION 2 ***********************
      >
      > http://www.iaru.org/uploads/1/3/0/7/13073366/r2_band_plan.pdf
      >
      > IARU REGION 2: The Americas
      >
      > 30 meter band
      >
      > 10100 - 10130 200 CW
      >
      > CW QRP Centre of activity 10116 kHz
      >
      > 10130 - 10140 500 All narrow band digimodes
      >
      > 10140 - 10150 2700 All modes, digimodes, no phone (SSB, AM or DV)
      >
      > Explanations
      >
      > Narrow band modes All modes up to 500 Hz bandwidth including CW, RTTY, PSK
      >
      > and others.
      >
      > Digimodes Includes, but not limited to PSK31, PSK63, RTTY, MT63 and
      >
      > others within bandwidth limits.
      >
      > Notes
      >
      > 1. CW QSOs are accepted across all bands, except within beacon segments.
      >
      > 2. Contest activity shall not take place on the 136 kHz, 10, 18 and 24 MHz
      > bands.
      >
      > 3. On the 136 kHz band, available in some of the Region 2 countries, only
      >
      > narrowband modes may be used.
      >
      > 4. The term "automatically controlled data stations" includes Store and
      > Forward
      >
      > stations.
      >
      > 5. Transmitting frequencies: The announced frequencies in the band plan are
      >
      > understood as "transmitted frequencies" and not those of the suppressed
      > carrier!
      >
      > 6. Unattended transmitting stations: IARU member societies are requested to
      > limit
      >
      > this activity on the HF bands. It is recommended that any unattended
      > transmitting
      >
      > stations on HF shall be activated only under operator control except for
      > beacons
      >
      > agreed with the IARU beacon coordinator, or specially licensed experimental
      >
      > stations.
      >
      > 7. Clear frequencies: Operating in accordance with band plans is good
      > amateur radio
      >
      > practice, especially with respect to centre of activity frequencies.
      > However,
      >
      > amateurs should understand that during periods of intense activity it may be
      >
      > unrealistic to expect a perfectly clear operating frequency.
      >
      > ************* ARRL Band Plan/info *******************
      >
      > http://www.arrl.org/frequency-allocations
      >
      > 30 Meters
      >
      > Maximum power, 200 watts PEP. Amateurs must avoid interference to the fixed
      > service outside the US.
      >
      > General, Advanced, Amateur Extra classes:
      >
      > 10.100-10.150 MHz: CW, RTTY/Data
      >
      > http://www.arrl.org/files/file/conop.pdf
      >
      > 10.106 QRP CW calling frequency
      >
      > 10.130-10.140 RTTY/Data
      >
      > 10.140-10.150 Automatically controlled data station
      >
      > --- In 30MDG@yahoogroups.com, "Robin" wrote:
      >
      >>
      >
      >> The excellent work that Ian, G3NRW has performed in providing 30MDG users
      >> with his band utilisation chart shows that the band plan issued by IARU
      >> (at least in Region 1) is far from being respected. Hopefully this will
      >> spur the IARU to re-assess their recommendations.
      >
      >>
      >
      >> However, of more concern is whether the licencing administrations in
      >> various countries are legally restricting use of digital modes from
      >> certain portions of the 30 meter band. Each of us is responsible for
      >> adhering to our country's spectrum allocations according to the terms and
      >> conditions of our licences. I strongly recommend that we all check these,
      >> since I know that 30 meter digital mode restrictions do exist in some
      >> countries. Unfortunately, not all administrations make their amateur radio
      >> spectrum allocations publicly available, or advise when they modify them.
      >
      >>
      >
      >> If anyone would like to forward to me (off this list) their country's
      >> current 30 meter allocations (only where there is a restriction on Digital
      >> Modes), then I would be pleased to collect these and prepare them for a
      >> commented presentation to this group.
      >
      >> Thanks to all for your co-operation
      >
      >>
      >
      >> Robin, 9H1ZZ
      >
      >> off list replies to: robin@...
      >
      >>
      >
      > Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) .
      > Top ^
      > 3a
      > Re: 30 metre antenna upgrade
      > Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:27 am (PST) . Posted by:
      > "kd1ia" ko1hqrp
      > 11:22 3 -12 1.4 -277 B KO1H G4DZE -10
      >
      > This morning my time
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: raf3151019
      > To: 30MDG@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:41 PM
      > Subject: [30MDG] 30 metre antenna upgrade
      >
      > Can you upgrade one of your 30 metre antennas so that a signal can reach the
      > UK ? I haven't seen a US station on the band for maybe a year
      >
      > Mel G0GQK
      >
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