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RED, WHITE and BLUE

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  • Will
    Having a problem reading RED, WHITE and BLUE from Keach, Burditt and Cassidy. Cant figure out what all the rolls are, anyone have it written out other then
    Message 1 of 3 , Jul 4, 2010
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      Having a problem reading RED, WHITE and BLUE from Keach, Burditt and Cassidy. Cant figure out what all the rolls are, anyone have it written out other then that from the Keach book?
    • whc303
      Will, The rolls with quarter notes are 9 stroke rolls. You could also play them as 11 stroke rolls, but most are marked as 9s. The rolls with half notes can be
      Message 2 of 3 , Jul 6, 2010
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        Will,

        The rolls with quarter notes are 9 stroke rolls. You could also play them as 11 stroke rolls, but most are marked as 9s. The rolls with half notes can be played as 17 stroke rolls or 19 stroke rolls. Sometimes the 17 stroke rolls are erroneously marked as 9s, but if they have a half note, a 9 would not be enough strokes to fill up the space. I also see a 9 stroke roll that should clearly be a 17 because the note the fife is playing at that point is a half note.

        Also an abbreviation used in this book is a note with three dots above it. This represents a paradiddle (or a flamadiddle if the main note is flammed).

        Hope this helps.

        Will Chappell



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        Posted by: "Will" drummer1812@... drummer_1812
        Date: Sun Jul 4, 2010 7:04 am ((PDT))

        Having a problem reading RED, WHITE and BLUE from Keach, Burditt and Cassidy.
        Cant figure out what all the rolls are, anyone have it written out other then
        that from the Keach book?
      • JOEWHITNEY@AOL.COM
        The instructions at the beginning of manual also help: Figures placed over notes indicate the roll to be used, viz 5 dictates that the five stroke rolls, the
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          The instructions at the beginning of manual also help: "Figures placed over notes indicate the roll to be used, viz 5 dictates that the five stroke rolls, the figures express the roll to be used."

          They continue:

          "There is no limit to a good roll. The performer using his judgment  in beating, except where it is marked."

          One tip is the little dots above a roll indicate that you divide the value of the note by the number of dots above it, so if you see four tiny dots above a whole note, it means you play for quarter notes; three tiny dots above a quarter note, and you the three taps in a time of one quarter note..

          Most Civil War musicians have heard how Red White and Blue (a.k.a. Columbia the Gem of the Ocean) is played and normally beat, so except for a few tricky areas the editors chose to stick in, the beat should be played to fit the music, as opposed to most martial drumming where the beat is primary and the tune usually paired with it.

          Our apologies to our Rev War friends for this explanation of Civil War drumming.  We now return you to the 18th century.


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          Will,
           
          The rolls with quarter notes are 9 stroke rolls. You could also play them as 11 
          stroke rolls, but most are marked as 9s. The rolls with half notes can be played 
          as 17 stroke rolls or 19 stroke rolls. Sometimes the 17 stroke rolls are 
          erroneously marked as 9s, but if they have a half note, a 9 would not be enough 
          strokes to fill up the space. I also see a 9 stroke roll that should clearly be 
          a 17 because the note the fife is playing at that point is a half note.
           
          Also an abbreviation used in this book is a note with three dots above it. This 
          represents a paradiddle (or a flamadiddle if the main note is flammed).
           
          Hope this helps. 
           
          Will Chappell
          
          
          
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              Date: Sun Jul 4, 2010 7:04 am ((PDT))
          
          Having a problem reading RED, WHITE and BLUE from Keach, Burditt and Cassidy. 
          Cant figure out what all the rolls are, anyone have it written out other then 
          that from the Keach book?
          
          
          
          
          
          
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