Tammy, I stand corrected. The two issues did seem to be mish mashed
together. I can't help but believe that keeping a historical context
in mind when viewing these topics is not without some merit. I know it
might seem like I just go on what I read in the paper and know from
the past because I don't attend a lot of meetings, but I actually
think there is some merit in that, though others might think I am an
old fogey who is longing for the good old days. Was it Ralph????
Happy Summer to all! And thank you to the Board for rescinding that
Draconian Fairmont thing. Now back to the drawing board.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org
, Tammera Campbell
> I was referring to attending the budget meeting to become more
involved and educated on the subject of school closure and finances.
It had nothing to do with the trustee. I should have been more clear
in my communication. Sorry if I confused anyone. I was referring to
several of Jim's statements in his email.
> But it is still my contention that attending the meeting will help
you keep better informed of the issues. Reading the paper and going
on what you know from the past does not paint you the picture of the
future. Better to stay informed and knowledable.
> rebecca494 <hrebwrite@...> wrote:
> Tammy, referring to your first paragraph, "Mr. Ramsey
> what the Trustee..."
> Well why didn't Mr. Ramsey just say that. All he had to say was, "Let
> us go over, for the public's benefit, what the Trustee can and
> I think that would have been clearer than presenting his question in a
> manner as if he did not know the answer and was simply an ignorant
> Also, I don't understand what joining the Budget Committee has to do
> with whether Board member Ramsey knows the parameters of the Trustees'
> responsibilities. Jim could very well attend the Budget Committee and
> end up no better off than he is now in terms of information. Since few
> really know what the parameters are re: the Trustee's responsibilities
> all the questions you raise actually have to be answered by the
> Trustee herself. My reading of the Trustee's power leads me to believe
> that where finances are concerned she has the bottom line in her
> hands. It isn't a matter of information and facts; it is a matter of
> power and politics.
> Rebecca Hazlewood
> --- In email@example.com, Tammera Campbell
> <tammeracampbell@> wrote:
> > Jim,
> > Mr. Ramsey knows exactly what the trustee can and cannot do, he
> asked the questions to provide information to the public.
> > May I suggest that you might want to attend the Budget Advisory
> meetings so you can be a part of the discussion regarding the savings
> or costs of school closures. I believe that Charley will have it on a
> future agenda and I encourage everyone to come and debate the issue.
> There is inherent savings when you close a school with regards to the
> cost of a principal, administrative assistant, janitor, utilities,
> etc. There are also costs to closing a school. If this community
> feels that small schools are necessary then they need to back it with
> funding, but they need to be educated on the subject.
> > It is a shame because back in 1972 Californians dedicated 5.6% of
> their personal income to public education, but now in 2005 it was down
> to 4.4%. We sure aren't funding at the level my grandparents funded.
> > Tammy Campbell
> > c_cowens <c_cowens@> wrote:
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, jim cowen <jimcowen@>
> > >
> > > When Charles Ramsey was asking at the board meeting about what
> > explicit power and instructions a state trustee has, and who the board
> > would go to if they wanted to appeal a trustee ruling, I was concerned
> > and surprised. Here is a 14 year board member, who has dealt with a
> > trustee all along, and only NOW he is asking these questions?
> > > But, based on that email from the new trustee (remember, she just
> > replaced longtime trustee Fred Stewart), it appears that there was
> > never a time before when school board members had to worry.
> > Apparently they now have a more aggressive trustee to deal with.
> > >
> > > I can't quote what the trustees powers and authority are, but as a
> > taxpayer and voter I certainly resent her telling the board HOW to cut
> > money. For her to pretend that the whole Portola/Fairmont thing was
> > all about closing Fairmont is insane, brutish, and shows a lack of
> > judgement.
> > >
> > > As for the idea that closing a school saves $500,000, that is
> > highly questionable. Remember, when the board wanted to close Olinda,
> > they showed a potentially high savings. They refused to consider such
> > things as increased janitorial, lunchroom, and office staff at the
> > destination school, or loss of ADA. It is obvious that if they close
> > Fairmont a significant number of students will be lost to Albany and
> > private schools (at $5000 annual ADA money each).
> > >
> > > I recall when we fought, Ms Pfeifer stated at one meeting that if
> > parents want to pull their kids from the district let them; they would
> > no longer be an issue for this district. Then she suggested that
> > there is no need to consider the loss of ADA. The argument made no
> > sense at the time, makes none now.
> > >
> > > Regardless, it is extremely easy to make a spreadsheet that shows
> > a $500k annual savings for closing Fairmont if one WANTS to close
> > Fairmont. Even accountants like to write fiction occasionally.
> > >
> > > Jim Cowen
> > >
> > >
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