£20k seems okay, doesn t it? But it s not far off the average wage in the UK, and for someone good enough to be in CdS, you would think they could expectMessage 1 of 11 , Jan 18, 2003View Source£20k seems okay, doesn't it? But it's not far off the average wage
in the UK, and for someone good enough to be in CdS, you would think they
could expect better.
Personally, I will probably make roughly £20k this year (my tax year
ends in April, so I've already done most of this year's work), and I will
have spent roughly 120 working days earning it, (and another 9,423 days
accounting for it all on the computer - boo!). I could probably handle maybe
200 days work per year, if I could find it, and its reasonable to suppose
that the more jobs you do, the more you are likely to get paid for each job,
because the more work you have available, the easier it is to turn down the
less well paid stuff. Realistically, if I had a plentiful supply of the kind
of work I'm good at, and I worked like a dog, I reckon I might be able to
turn £40-50k. I'f I'm really lucky it might happen in a decade or so, but
I'm not holding my breath.
The problem for mere mortals like me, of course, is that you have to
be in the business a very long time to build up enough contacts to keep your
There are only two solutions :
1. Work your nuts off and then you die (my method).
2. Be incredibly talented (slightly harder method).
Somewhat drunk, so probably best not to take anything I say too seriously.
... You do not have to work hard nor be talented to succeed in life. All you have got to do is work smart,be original. To be a GOOD juggler you need to beMessage 1 of 11 , Jan 18, 2003View Source
> 1. Work your nuts off and then you die (my method).You do not have to work hard nor be talented to succeed in life.
> 2. Be incredibly talented (slightly harder method).
All you have got to do is work smart,be original.
To be a GOOD juggler you need to be talented and work hard,but to have a
good juggling routine,not so.
I'm accomplished with fire breathing etc and one time I had a gig to do and
at the last minute (four hours b4 curtain) we found out fire was not an
option due to venue laws.
It was a friends show so I didn't want to let her down and leave a gap in
so I came up with a juggling routine that the crowd loved...lots of flashy
lights,some good costumes,half naked girls,catchy music etc.
However the most impressive juggling technique was a 3 ball rubenstiens
No juggler would have been impressed,but the crowd loved it.
To be successful,one merely has to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
That's why the backstreet boys outsell Pavarotti,and why strippers earn more
... What nobody s mentioned so far is that Soleil pay different according to your position in the company. Featured artistes with solo routines get *much* moreMessage 1 of 11 , Jan 19, 2003View SourceIn your last message, you said:
>> *At the skill level required to get into CDS you should be able to commandWhat nobody's mentioned so far is that Soleil pay different according to
> more per show to cover $30k
your position in the company. Featured artistes with solo routines get
*much* more than chorus members ( and, incidentally, way more than the $30k
so far mentioned... ). Plus of course soleil also tour with a whole bunch of
doctors, physios, masseurs and stuff, reckon their changing facilities are
going to be way more plush than the fire escape/ disabled toilet (don't
knock it, at least there's running water and somewhere to pee away from the
punters)/ cloakroom/ broom cupboard that us lowlifes generally end up with,
which all adds to the wage..
..But then they ask for big skill and polished performance..
...Just saw the latest incarnation of C***le's "Chinese State".. The tour
with the big-human-pyramid-skipping act missed Manc, and everyone I knew
who'd seen that one had said it was good, so I was expecting better than the
usual C***le production... how wrong was I?? Don't rush out for tix for this
one folks, it's dire!! "Ends with a thrilling kung fu demonstration"
apparently.. well, no. "Ends with most of the troupe prancing about and
waving their arms around" would be a far fairer description.. To an old
cynic like me it looks like someone's trying to fob off an ignorant public
having seen the success of the Shaolin monk's tour... I could rant for ages
about the low skill level, the shoddy props and the p*ss-poor presentation,
but it's not good for the blood pressure...
... Which goes to show that it's not ( as someone has already mentioned ),
necessarily about talent or hard graft, there's a lot to be said for volume
of publicity ( as long as you've either got no real competition or you're
not looking for repeat bookings...)