--- Doug <rudi2396@...
YES, John... I cannot accept the law as it is for the
simple reason it does not GIVE ME FULL DISCLOSURE of
the nature and cause of the claim/billing!
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on
the surface, many citizens, because of their respect
for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly
coerced into waiving their rights, due to ignorance."
(Paraphrased) U.S. V Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Whatever the form in which the Government functions,
anyone entering in to an arrangement with the
Government takes the risk of having accurately
ascertained that he who purports to act for the
Government stays within the bounds of his
Federal Crop Insurance Corporation vs Merrill, 332
U.S. 380, at 384. (1947)
SOUNDS GOOD. WON'T FLY. BEEN THERE TOO.
It is my intent to resolve this question with as
little conflict as possible, avoiding the extra
time, trouble & expense of hiring an attorney, or any
other legal professional to dispute this matter with
the Agency. ANY "ATTORNEY" WORKS FOR THE COURT FIRST
AND FOREMOST. HE/SHE IS "AN OFFICER OF THE COURT" AND
SWORN TO UPHOLD THE SYSTEM...NOT YOU.
Therefore, I make a good faith offer to pay the
alleged debt, in full, if the Agency can show the
reasonable basis for its claim. RODREIGUEZ
DEFENSE/CLAIM. WON'T WORK. ASK THE POOR FOLKS WHO PAID
RIGHT WAY LAW A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE "FORMULA" BACK IN
I just want to be fully informed of the nature and
cause of the claim by their production of facts
necessary to establish that I am specifically and
unequivocally made liable by law for the payment of
"property tax" alleged by the agency, and clearly
identifying the particular statute[s], code[s] and
regulation[s] YOU WILL NEVER BE "FULLY INFORMED" AND
YOU WILL NEVER WIN USING THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU WEREN'T
FULLY INFORMED - that allegedly create the liability
for payment of such debt; along with a showing that
I, and my land, IT IS NOT YOUR LAND.... YOU WERE NOT
GRANTED A "LAND PATENT" (AND EVEN THAT WAS FORBIDDEN
BY THE CONSTITUTION) AND YOU DID NOT "HOMESTEAD" YOUR
LAND IN THE 1800'S AND UNLESS YOU CAN RUN IT BACK TO A
ANCESTOR WHO WAS GRANTED A LAND PATENT BY THE
PRESIDENT YOU HAVEN'T A CHANCE OF THE PROVERBIAL
SNOW-BALL. are subject to the legislative
jurisdiction, regulation and control of the
legislative entity which created the (Property tax)
statutes in the first place. THEY DID AND YOU ARE.
YOU DO NOT OWN THE LAND. YOU RENT THE LAND.
If they cannot or will not produce the FACTS, then
there is no DEBT liability to pay. THEIR LAW (WHICH
YOU ARE SUBJECT TO) SAYS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO
PRODUCE ANYTHING AND YOU HAVE THE LIABILITY. WHY DO
YOU THINK THE JUDGE IN THE DISTRICT OR FEDERAL COURT
SAYS "I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE LAW IS IN MY COURTROOM"??
If, in fact, the DEBT alleged by the Agency is a fee
for which I am made liable by law, and; I am subject
to the jurisdiction, regulation and control of the
legislative entity which enacted and promulgated the
enabling statute, and the property upon which the
legislative body may impose the debt, is within the
legislative jurisdiction of the Agency, then I am
certainly entitled to presentation of evidence
sufficient to demonstrate the factual validity of
these claims. ONLY IF YOU ARE PROTECTED BY THE
CONSTITUTION AND YOU ARE NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE WAIVED
THOSE RIGHTS A LONG TIME AGO.
When I ask for material evidence to substantiate
their claim of legislative jurisdiction over me and
my land I do not expect to get obfuscation in the form
of a "statute" only applicable to "statutory persons"!
That is cause for an immediate default! JUST ANSWER
THE BUREAUCRACY/JUDICIARY WILL NOT ANSWER YOUR
QUESTIONS. IF THEY CHOOSE TO PLAY THEIR LITTLE 'COVER
UP THE REAL HAMMER' GAMES THEY WILL GIVE YOU ANSWERS
THAT ARE AMBIGUOUS AND DECEPTIVE BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO
FIND THE LEGAL FLAWS IN, OR THEY MAY "RULE IN EQUITY"
IN A COURT OF ADMIRALTY TO WHICH YOU WILL UNWITTINGLY
GIVE PERSONAL AND SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND YOUR
GOOSE WILL BE NICELY COOKED.
You do know the difference between a "FACT" and an
"OPINION"" do you not? BE CAREFUL OR YOU WILL END UP
SENTENCED AND TAKEN OUT OF THE COURTROOM IN VERY REAL
HAND-CUFFS FOR DISRESPECT (CONTEMPT).
I call it a win when the bureauRAT crawls back under
the rock he came from and bothers me no more! IT
ISN'T. IT'S ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THE LONGEST UGLIEST
BLOOD-LETTING YOU CAN IMAGINE.I call it a win when he
asks for a personal meeting, shows up with his
supervisor and then stutters an apology for his
actions. HE IS A PEON AND HE ISNT "IN THE KNOW"
EITHER. GO FURTHER UP THE HOG'S LEG AND GET ONE OF
'DISTRICT COUNCEL' THEY SNARL LOTS BETTER AND HAVE
BIGGER TEETH AND THEY ARE IN THE KNOW.
I call it a win when they interfere with my "cross
examination" of their claims and witnesses and refuse
to give me full disclosure! That alone would be an
"automatic reversal" of any findings against me! MY
PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING
AND AN OVERSUPPLY OF PROPAGANDA AND MISINFORMATION.
I'm an older cuss and I care not for this new breed
of claimed "sovereign's" who worships at the ICON of
government! LIKELY I AM AN "OLDER CUSS" THAN YOU ARE,
AND ONE THING IS FOR SURE, I HAVE A LOT MORE BATTLE
SCARS IN THIS WAR THAN YOU DO. AND I HAVE FIGURED OUT
WHEN TO HOLD 'EM AND WHEN TO FOLD 'EM.
My Bible states that one cannot follow two masters and
I have already chosen which one I willingly follow. Do
you really think I will switch my convictions because
I am threatened by cops/agent with more firepower than
I possess at the moment? Aint' a gonna happen! Been
doing this for well over 20 years now!O.K. THAT IS ONE
OF THE FEW THINGS THAT ARE STILL WITHIN YOUR POWER.
THE ABILITY TO THROW YOURSELF IN FRONT OF A SPEEDING
FREIGHT TRAIN. HAVE AT IT.
That is like you having a make believe world or
halluci-Nation called RabbitWorld and demanding I
participate in your delusion or face "contempt of
stool" and "being caged" for not being as off center
as you are!! ???????
I guess you equate coercion with a gun YEAH, AS A
MATTER OF FACT I DO! A 357 IS DEFINATELY "COERCION"!!!
to a "fair" trial and "good faith" showing! NO, OF
COURSE I DON'T EQUATE "FAIR" ANYTHING WITH THE BARREL
OF A GUN BUT THEY LABEL IT EXACTLY THAT. And there is
ALWAYS more than one way to skin a polecat!
Answer one simple question for me concerning this
court case that will take my land and toys away and
possibly cage me: "Is there evidence of the
plaintiff?" MY FRIEND, THE "PLAINTIFF" HOLDS THE GUN
AND HAS ALL THE AMMO.!!
Make that two questions: "Is a sane man insane in an
insane world?" IF HE USES HIS G---GIVEN ENERGY
FIGHTING BATTLES HE CAN'T WIN HE IS. GET CREATIVE AND
LOOK FOR OTHER METHODS. REMEMBER THE OLD ADDAGE:
"FIGHT AND RUN AWAY TO LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY".
> Deo volente,
> Jim for FISH
> Blessed be the Lord my rock, that teacheth my hands
> to war,
> and my fingers to fight. Psalms 144:1
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:47:33 -0700 John Wilde
> <mailto:jpwilde@...>> writes:
> Sorry you can't except the law as it is. I
> suggest you spend a
> few hours in a law library and read the
> decisions involving
> Arizona's property tax laws. I have been
> dealing with them for
> years. Article IX of Arizona's Constitution is
> the revenue and
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