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, "John H." <otoman@...> wrote:
> My Response: A person can demand their rights until they turn
> blue. When you are in a kangaroo court, it does not matter.
What is a kangaroo court?
You are a lot of work because you get in your own way. Were
you in a kangaroo court or a traffic court? If you cannot see
the difference, you will always be asserting the wrong argument.
> Especially when there is no recorder to verify action and deed.
> Yes, someone could have been taking notes but how many friends
> do you have that would take off work for you when they would not
> do it for themselves.
Who said to have a friend do it? Are you not capable of remembering
the questions asked, who said what, who responded as events unfolded?
Write everything down to the best of your recall, type it up, and
you have your bystander notes.
> If you have been to traffic court then you also know that the
> only person, as a defendant, that knows even half of what is
> going on is YOU!
Knowing only half of what is going on will not work. Learn from
what went on and why it went on, what rules were being used, what
rules were being ignored, and then find cases to support what you
want to assert.
> The rest are clueless.
Is that important to you?
> My case is over. It is done. I just wanted to use my experience
> to help others.
Are YOU done is the pertinent question? I did not find your
"experience" helpful in the least. Didn't someone commit murder
in your courtroom, or kangaroo court?
> I spent literally a dozen hours or more on reading posts from
> this group and my own study of state traffic law and ways to beat
> traffic violations.
I spent two dozen hours this past weekend going over some recent
and old information. I have spent hundreds of hours reading posts,
doing searches, spending time in the law library, and finding cases
to support my position in front of any judge, and appellate judges.
A dozen hours is nothing, and your results prove that. You have
not even scratched the surface, and you keep pointing the finger
at others on this site, to wit the following:
> In no way would most posts from this group help a person to
> defend themselves in a Florida traffic court.
This is true. Very few posts pertain specifically to Florida
traffic courts. Most, as you say, are about other things.
> YES, bits and pieces helped. BUT, I had to wade through 5 feet of
> mud (filter out what did and did not apply to Florida Traffic Laws
Enough of your "efforts" already. How are your monumental efforts
working for you?
How about reading and learning what the Florida Criminal Code has to
say about traffic violations and arraignments? How about a trip to a
law library to read about cases that require players to play by the
rules...those rules you seem not to know?
> We can continue as we are in this forum, concerning traffic
> citations, and continue to wade through the mud to filter
> what applies to "my" state, or we can use common sense and find
You, not "we."
I give up.