Hail to the Valar Guild! :} Atouk, the best place to find a tester(if you haven t found one already by the time you read this) is after our meetings.Message 1 of 981 , Aug 9, 2000View SourceHail to the Valar Guild! :}<br><br>Atouk, the
best place to find a tester(if you haven't found one
already by the time you read this) is after our meetings.
Check out our page for the time. We meet on bnet, so
you'll have no problem there.<br><br>Take care all!
:}<br>May Elbereth's stars shine upon you all!
... Shire, the ... mind ... What other communism is there? the one that impoverished whole continents with bad governance? or the communism that killed ca. 80Message 981 of 981 , May 1, 2002View Sourcehalbarad_v <email@example.com> wrote:
--- In thevalarguild@y..., kingfolca_v wrote:
> I do not know how this thought came to me... You
> see, I was in the midst of comparing and contrasting
> democracy and communism to see if a possible union could be
> made, when my mind drifted to Tolkien.<br><br>I then
> realized: the hobbits political system was democratic. It
> stunned me as I began to think that these creatures were
> extremely advanced in their thinking and social order to
> have developped a democratic
> system.<br><br>Interestingly enough, in the "The Scouring of The
> Shire has been turned into a communist regime.
> Evidently Tolkien held much in doubt of this
> communism.<br><br>Perhaps you all have realized this before, but my
> had never drawn the connection. Though I am surprised
> that Tolkien wrote of communism in such a negative
> way. I hope that he was making his statement against
> the "commmunism" that had infected Russia, meaning
> the anti-theoretical communism which was against many
> of the principles of communism itself.<br><br>I
> would like to hear your comments, <br>King Folca of
What other communism is there? the one that impoverished whole
continents with bad governance? or the communism that killed ca. 80
million innocent people in the last cenury? The Lord of th Rings is a
great fantasy novel, but try to remember a very bad struggle just
passed with the passing of the last century. Like many observers of
his time, Tolkien knew evil when he saw it. His great talent was to
make believable allegory secondary to a wonderful story.
That's very interesting. I'd like to say this: Although LOTR may contain allegorical(symbolic)elements, and may be considered a 'Fantasy', and is certainly a wonderful story; I see a more 'factual' reference in the idea of Numenor. Not that any such place has ever been proven to have existed, but neither is there conclusive evidence to the contrary, and there are those who will never give up the endeavor, the hope or the quest for some proof that early civilizations such as the Egyptian, had links to 'advanced' cultures which predated them...
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