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• Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Brother ALION of HOOR s LAShTAL Temple in Serbia emailed me this from one of our other Brothers, G. Suster.
Message 1 of 11 , Jan 3, 2001
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Brother ALION of HOOR's LAShTAL Temple in Serbia emailed me
this from one of our other Brothers, G. Suster.

"The Discoveries of Gerald Suster

During the Spring of the year 1989, an extremely interesting
hypothesis appeared within the pages of the journal NUIT-ISIS:

THE RIDDLE OF THE BOOK OF THE LAW II 76

By Gerald Suster

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

II 76.4 6 3 8 A B K 2 4 A L G M Q R 3 Y X 24 89 R P
5 T 0 V A L.

What meaneth this, o prophet? Thou knowest
not; nor shalt thou know ever. There cometh one to
follow thee: he shall expound it. But
remember,o chosen one, to be me; to
follow the love of Nu in the star-lit heaven; to
look forth upon men, to tell them this glad word.

Much fuss has been expended and much misapplied energy
and intelligence wasted on endeavouring to find a
solution to the above.

The answer is mind-blastingly simple and obvious.

It is 419 = 418 + "one to follow thee" = the Beast and
Babalon.

The Method.

A - Turn to a copy of the MS of the Book of the Law, p
16, III 47. It is the only page written on a grid,
obviously for some purpose. "Then this line drawn is a
key..." The line in question runs from C to 7
on the grid.

B - Attribute the English Alphabet so that C=7,
thereforeb=6, d=8, w=1, etc.

C - Using this key, change the letters of the Riddle

D - The result is 419. "418 + 'one to follow thee"'.
Also 419 = Teth spelled in full = Serpent = Atu Xl =
Lust = Beast and Babalon conjoined = Eleven Pointed
Star (one thinks of 'And Abrahadabra') = Leo =
Lion/Serpent = Baphomet.

E - The fact that, without thinking of the Book of the
Law, I took the Magical Name VAL (Venio Ad Lucem) in
1974 is probably not especially relevant; nor is the
fact that my Sun and Moon are conjoined at 9 degrees
in Leo.

F - Qabalistic analysis of key words in the Book
according to the C=7 key yields fascinating results.

G - The mystery has been explained. Big deal - and
about time too. Now letts all get on with some work.

Love is the law, love under will.

A=5

B=6

C=7

D=8

E=9

F=l0

G=ll

H=12

I=13

J=14

K=15

L=16

M=17

N=18

0=19

P=20

Q=21

R=22

S=23

T=24

U=25

V=26

W=l

X=2

Y=3

Z=4"
• ... And yet a quick script to build a Sepher Sephiroth-like reference out of AL using Suster s enumeration really doesn t reveal anything even remotely
Message 2 of 11 , Jan 4, 2001
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 shm_ihsvh@... wrote:

> Much fuss has been expended and much misapplied energy
> and intelligence wasted on endeavouring to find a
> solution to the above.
>
> The answer is mind-blastingly simple and obvious.
>
> It is 419 = 418 + "one to follow thee" = the Beast and
> Babalon.

And yet a quick script to build a Sepher Sephiroth-like reference out of
AL using Suster's enumeration really doesn't reveal anything even remotely
interesting. Maybe I'll get different results when I feed the whole Class
A corpus into it, but I kind of doubt it. The linear enumeration results
in too close a clustering of word values.

I suspect that when the key to English gematria is finally discovered, it
will take into account letter case. AL is quite specific about not
changing so much as the style of a letter, which suggests that there is
some as-yet-undiscovered informational content stored there, especially in
light of the fact that there is at least one place in AL where a
lower-case letter is used in an unconventional location. It would also
strike me as odd if, as with Suster's system, the enumeration was linear
instead of logarithmic as it is with most other systems of gematria. There
is also the question of ampersands, which could be considered equal to the
enumeration of "et" -- the ampersand symbol being a stylized "et" -- or
else an enumeration of its own.

AL also specifically refers to the "English" and not the Roman or Latin
alphabet. The most obvious implication is that i, j, y, u, v, and w are to
be regarded as separate letters, but I suspect that there is a further
significance in Aiwass' choice of words here.

-e.

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• 93 In article , shm_ihsvh@hotmail.com writes ... Not especially relevant - yet he still can t resist mentioning them. How like
Message 3 of 11 , Jan 4, 2001
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93
In article <930a4h+o5ql@...>, shm_ihsvh@... writes
> E - The fact that, without thinking of the Book of the
> Law, I took the Magical Name VAL (Venio Ad Lucem) in
> 1974 is probably not especially relevant; nor is the
> fact that my Sun and Moon are conjoined at 9 degrees
> in Leo.

'Not especially relevant' - yet he still can't resist mentioning them.
How like Gerald. :)

93 93/93

Cav
--
Give me a woman who's taken her knocks,
Who's tasted both gutter and stars.
Give me a lady with holes in her socks.
Give me a princess with scars.
• 93 Greetings! I would observe that the grid that Gerald s system relies upon was not on the manuscript when it was copied for inclusion in Equinox Vol.I No. 7
Message 4 of 11 , Jan 4, 2001
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93

Greetings!

I would observe that the grid that Gerald's system relies upon was not
on the manuscript when it was copied for inclusion in Equinox Vol.I No.
7 1912. It was on the manuscript when it was copied for Equinox of the
Gods 1936. Presumably it was added at some point in between. Folks may
wish to consider whether the grid should be regarded as Class A or not.
Whilst Crowley identifies Liber Al as Class A, he makes no mention (to
my knowledge) of the grid. It may be something that he tried, found
unfruitful, and then abandoned.

The best text concerning the changes made by Crowley and others to the
manuscript of Liber Al (first called Liber L) is Red Flame 8. Only 156
copies were printed, and it is now out of print. If anyone does want a
copy get in contact with me. It is written from the point of view of a
passionate Thelemite, so while it explains that Crowley changed far more
than just the style of a letter or two, it is very respectful of his
role as Prophet.

My regards

Ben

93 93/93
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• 93, I was a clever analyst before I read Crowley, but exposure to his brand of Qabala made me a completely ruthless one. So much in fact that I began to see
Message 5 of 11 , Jan 4, 2001
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93,

I was a clever analyst before I read Crowley, but exposure to
his brand of Qabala made me a completely ruthless one. So much in
fact that I began to see the flaws in his alphabet. I'm suprised that
out of so many ardent exponents of the Qabala in the internet
Thelemic community, the vast majority are muddled thinkers who sway
back and forth between tamed sentiment and a fear of certainty,
caused by the ever-impending catastrophe of actually sharing an
original thought with the world and living with the consequences of
it. I find myself qualified to serve as Devil's Advocate, so I will
accept the role.

What I see in most English gematria systems is a pseudo-qabala
based upon Aleister Crowley's alphabet. It is a fact that every
English system will produce numbers that can be interpreted through
the Qabala; while this is the strongest asset of Qabala, it reduces
the results from every alphabet to the same static symbols. Nothing
changes through this methodology, and any system which references the
Qabala as a means for definitions is not a new system, but rather an
extension of the old. Crowley has already created a Qabala-based
magical alphabet; there is no point in going through the same door
repeatedly, as it always leads to the same place.

Prophet 718
• I think that when the riddle is solved we will all know it with certainty. There will be no dispute. We(this list) will erupt with angelic joy and it will be
Message 6 of 11 , Jan 4, 2001
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I think that when the riddle is solved we will all know it with certainty.
There will be no dispute. We(this list) will erupt with angelic joy and it
will be the main topic for the next two years. However, this has not yet
happened. Thus we can diligently continue our search for the answer.

Yes, I don't think that the gematria will be straight forward. I think it
will take another Einstein to find the answer. I'm sure it will be quite
scientific a discovery.

We should actually create a fund for the research of the riddle and find a
few 'qualified' experts in different applicable fields of study to come
together and share and combine their individual knowledge to try and find
the key. I don't know. Maybe we find a big piece of the puzzle under the
Sphinx. Maybe we need to advance a bit further in the field of computer
science.

In LUW
Martin
• 444 ... certainty. ... joy and it ... not yet ... answer. I think this has already happened. I have solved the riddle to be the glad word SATOR AREPO TEXET
Message 7 of 11 , Jan 5, 2001
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444

--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, "Martin" <Hawke@i...> wrote:
> I think that when the riddle is solved we will all know it with
certainty.
> There will be no dispute. We(this list) will erupt with angelic
joy and it
> will be the main topic for the next two years. However, this has
not yet
> happened. Thus we can diligently continue our search for the

I think this has already happened. I have solved the riddle to be
the "glad word" SATOR AREPO TEXET OPERA ROTAS, the solution is posted
at the Files section of both Thelema&holycram@egroups.com. It is the
lamen of the aeon.

> Yes, I don't think that the gematria will be straight forward.

I disagree. All the best qabalahas are the simplest ones. Confusion
is confusing and false. Serial English (A-Z=1-26)is the Qabalah that
solves both AL II:76 & AL III:47. They all follow the order of the
alphabet, and the alphabet's order possesses a nice rhyming order,
which everyone innately agrees is the proper order. This is the case
for the English Alphabet as well.

I think it
> will take another Einstein to find the answer. I'm sure it will be
quite
> scientific a discovery.

Scientific in a magickal and philosophical sense yes, but not staley
scientific, devoid of qabalistic glory.

>
> We should actually create a fund for the research of the riddle and
find a
> few 'qualified' experts in different applicable fields of study to
come
> together and share and combine their individual knowledge to try
and find
> the key.

Why don't you just give me money to pay my bills so I won't have to
work so I may expound Thelema more!

323

Walt
4774
• ... discovered, it ... Again, I think the true English code is the simple A-Z=1-26&1- 800,etc., but I have thought about this case issue. Just to experiment,
Message 8 of 11 , Jan 5, 2001
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> I suspect that when the key to English gematria is finally
discovered, it
> will take into account letter case.

Again, I think the true English code is the simple A-Z=1-26&1-
experiment, try using the Metric value of the serial order for
capitals. Ex.) Walt = 23+1+12+20=56, now Walt=500+1+12+20=533, but
this would not change the values for A-I=1-9. So, perhaps we could
add a 0 to the serial order, which would enumerate Andy as
10+14+4+25=53 and Walt as 230+1+12+20=263. I like this, but what
about if we're using the Metric Qabalah in the first place, we might
use the same rule of putting a 0 on the Metric value, so here Walt
would be as 5000+1+30+200=5231.

But this isn't the qabalah, these are just fun side games. The true
qabalah I believe is A-Z=1-26. Check it out. It enumerates AL

Most people agree that ampersands should not be numbered, and I
completely agree with this, as it gives much better results in Serial
English.

>
> AL also specifically refers to the "English" and not the Roman or
Latin
> alphabet. The most obvious implication is that i, j, y, u, v, and w
are to
> be regarded as separate letters, but I suspect that there is a
further
> significance in Aiwass' choice of words here.

Yes, instead of a 1-22 contraction of English, it is a 1-26 serial &
1-800 metric order. Check out my "Magickal Timeline" at thelema and
holy cram@egroups.com.

323

Walt
4774
• Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. ... Serial ... I disagree. There is the Zarathustrian English Qabalah discovered by Marc Cohen, developed by
Message 9 of 11 , Jan 5, 2001
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

> Most people agree that ampersands should not be numbered, and I
> completely agree with this, as it gives much better results in
Serial
> English.

I disagree. There is the Zarathustrian English Qabalah discovered
by Marc Cohen, developed by Cohen & Zintel, which makes use of
both 1-27 & 1-900, the Ampersand and Case. There will be essays
on this on Horus Lodge's (H.O.O.R.) new website soon.

(Paul Rovelli, I know you were involved in the initial project
when you were in H.O.O.R. but the system has developed far beyond the
skeletal system you were aware of.)

I should note that this is the only system where the actual
_order of the letters_ is taken directly from CCXX. No matter
what one may say of the Zarathustrian system one cannot deny
that the order of the letters as they appear in CCXX (omitting
repeating letters, sigilization style) is:
H A D T E M N I F S O U V L G C P Y R W B K J Z X Q

Note that 'z' is only found in Ch. 1!

Love is the law, love under will.
Fraternally,

999'.' Joshua Zintel
• Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law, What exactly is Crowley s alphabet and how is it that most english gematria systems are based upon it? Love
Message 10 of 11 , Jan 5, 2001
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law,

What exactly is "Crowley's alphabet" and how is it that most english
gematria systems are based upon it?

Love is the law, love under will,
Cameron

> What I see in most English gematria systems is a pseudo-qabala
> based upon Aleister Crowley's alphabet. It is a fact that every
> English system will produce numbers that can be interpreted through
> the Qabala; while this is the strongest asset of Qabala, it reduces
> the results from every alphabet to the same static symbols. Nothing
> changes through this methodology, and any system which references
the
> Qabala as a means for definitions is not a new system, but rather an
> extension of the old. Crowley has already created a Qabala-based
> magical alphabet; there is no point in going through the same door
> repeatedly, as it always leads to the same place.
>
> Prophet 718
• ... not on the manuscript when it was copied for inclusion in Equinox Vol.I No. 7 1912. It was on the manuscript when it was copied for Equinox of the Gods
Message 11 of 11 , Jan 7, 2001
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--- In thelema93-l@egroups.com, Mr Fernee <ben@c...> wrote:
> 93
>
> Greetings!
>
> I would observe that the grid that Gerald's system relies upon was
not on the manuscript when it was copied for inclusion in Equinox
Vol.I No. 7 1912. It was on the manuscript when it was copied for
Equinox of the Gods 1936. Presumably it was added at some point in
between.

<snipped>

93 Ben and all,

I personally find the grid to be rather intriguing. However the
timing of its addition to the can be pinpointed closer than this as
it is visible in the 'Tunis' edition of 1925. This lends credence to
it being done sometime during the Cefalu time-period.

Jerry and I have combined some of our writings on the topic of the
grid into an essay we posted to the web. It can be found at: