... From: ... Of course. Though the mechanics of manifestation may not be limited to belief alone ... And therein lies the rub orMessage 1 of 2 , Oct 1, 2000View Source
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> Hold on. Are you trying to seriously say that belief can manifest
Of course. Though the mechanics of manifestation may not be limited to
> > Sorry bro, but your paradigm just isn't pervasive enough in the
> minds of
> > humanity for it to grow into a true reality.
> This is incredible and it is no wonder I missed your point> I thought
> you were joking about mass belief collapsing into reality or whatever
> it is you are saying.
And therein lies the rub "or whatever it is you are saying"
> In order for you to sell it t
> > othe point of mass-acceptence, I think you'll need to tone down the
> > Hubbard-esque totalitarian regime you are offering.
> I don't care for mass acceptance until the stage after the stage
> after this.
So how do you propose to develop your possible future if you care not for
widespread acceptance in the global mind for several stages? Looks like an
uphill battle from here. I'd be thinking one would be crowing this appealing
vision of the future from the rooftops, spamming usenet, and annoying the
regular media outlets.
> > I don't know about the rest of the list-denizens, but my future
> holds a lot
> > of fun and freedom for me. Not oppression and misery.
> Fun and freedom from responsibility to the community. That is the
> only reason you rail against 'oppression'. You and others here do not
> understand morality as the foundation of the community.
> Accountability to ones fellows is rejected by immature 'adults'.
Responsible to who's community? I am responsible to my own, and that's
enough. As for railling against the oppression you preach, sorry, but I will
not accept your vision of the future.
> While you and your cisterns are off happilly being
> subjgated by
> > oppressive space nazis, me and the rest of humanity will be in the
> > next door dancing naked round the campfire and having a great time.
Never mind... We'll be fine
I said : Hold on. Are you trying to seriously say that belief can manifest ... to ... Wow. That is what I meant by whatever it is you are saying. You callMessage 2 of 2 , Oct 1, 2000View SourceI said : "Hold on. Are you trying to seriously say that belief can
> > matter?"You answered:
> Of course. Though the mechanics of manifestation may not be limitedto
> belief aloneWow. That is what I meant by 'whatever it is you are saying.' You
call me insane? You honestly believe that enough believers can
I said: "I don't care for mass acceptance until the stage after the
stage after this."
You answered: "So how do you propose to develop your possible future
if you care not for widespread acceptance in the global mind for
several stages? Looks like an
> uphill battle from here. I'd be thinking one would be crowing thisappealing
> vision of the future from the rooftops, spamming usenet, andannoying the
> regular media outlets.This stage is to give preview information to all parties, and to use
thelemic abuse and martial law, as well as the fellowship of more
calm members to motivate me to work through Liber Legis between
writing on other projects.
The next stage is where the argument goes public. I do not mind
derision there either. My colleagues in Aurum Astrum will take care
of the media aspect. The miniature we see in this list will repeat on
a much larger scale.
re uphill struggle at this stage, see number 14 Sepher Sephiroth
Rising ground. Earth of geburah.To
grind , direct, stretch out.
Up until christmas I expect to be giving here waht will be given
again in public. I will be leaving t93 once Liber Legis is done and a
little recap has been made.
The stage after the media war is where the neighbours arrive and win
over public opinion to the cause of Universal peace. That is when
mass acceptance matters, and that is when the public will give it.