Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
"Frater M.A.Ch.H. 999" wrote:
> > > > What are you looking for Martijn? A complete democracy here?
> > >
> > > Why not?
> > Since democracy, in its pure sense, has never functioned properly in history
> Misnomer. Nothing has ever functioned properly in human history.
> From Liber CXCIV:
> "10. The principle of popular election is a fatal folly; its results are visible in every so-called democracy.
Notice the distinctions used: popular election and 'so-called'
Exactly. One of the key words there is popular... of or representing the people at large.
'The elected man is always the mediocrity; he is the safe man, the sound
man, the man who displeases the majority less than any other; and
therefore never the genius, the man of progress and illumination."
Both Beta, Alpha and the rest of the bunch were all elected in one way
or the other. Crowley was elected by his own accounts.
Personally, I think leaders should be as mediocre as possible. That way,
they're not likely to even notice you and you can do whatever the bloody
hell you like without them rearing their mandarin heads.
Democracy is simply the best of all evils. The only reasonable
alternative is a system like Ancient Greece had, but there's not enough
quality available for that in mankind nowadays. The 'sage king' system
is simply too superstitious and naive to function in
> Case in point on the types of failures of democracy, take a look at the current US Presidential candidates. They are both utter fools.
The US was never a democracy, it's basically a system that allows you to
choose between 2 dictators. Even Russia has a more liberal system than
the Us, at least they don't waste money on campaigns.
This is technically correct with the first statement. The government of the US, when originally established, was in essence, a Republic. It was still much more democratic at that point than it can be said to be at this time. These days, even though it calls itself 'democratic' it is actually more of a representative oligarchy and the power of government does not reside in the decisions of the people at large. This especially started to take its current form mostly from the institution of the Electoral College and branched from there, eventually all but eliminating popular control of government from the masses.
There is a difference between election and democracy. A relation exists, surely, but that is not the only means by which election can be applied.
election \E*lec"tion\, n. [F. ['e]lection, L. electio, fr. eligere to choose out. See Elect, a.] 1. The act of choosing; choice; selection.
2. The act of choosing a person to fill an office, or to membership in a society, as by ballot, uplifted hands, or viva voce; as, the election of a president or a mayor.
Corruption in elections is the great enemy of freedom. --J. Adams.
3. Power of choosing; free will; liberty to choose or act. ``By his own election led to ill.'' --Daniel.
4. Discriminating choice; discernment. [Obs.]
To use men with much difference and election is good. --Bacon.
5. (Theol.) Divine choice; predestination of individuals as objects of mercy and salvation; -- one of the ``five points'' of Calvinism.
There is a remnant according to the election of grace. --Rom. xi. 5.
6. (Law) The choice, made by a party, of two alternatives, by taking one of which, the chooser is excluded from the other.
7. Those who are elected. [Obs.]
n., pl. de·moc·ra·cies.
1.. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2.. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3.. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4.. Majority rule.
5.. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community
democracy \De*moc"ra*cy\, n.; pl. Democracies. [F. d['e]mocratie, fr. Gr. dhmokrati`a; dh^mos the people + kratei^n to be strong, to rule, kra`tos strength.]
1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.
2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.
3. Collectively, the people, regarded as the source of government. --Milton.
4. The principles and policy of the Democratic party, so called. [U.S.]
Humorously, I note the above 'so called' again as was previously noted in Liber CXCIV. ;)
Current US elections of officials is the closest that one comes to touching a government related process these days unless one ends up being one of those elected officials. Presidential election has turned into a farce, more often than not. The closest aspect of that process where a person has more power of selection is actually in the election of their own local officials, and in handfuls of potential local initiatives in which case there is sometimes democratic process going on in deciding how to deal with an issue. By and large, aside from these events, the people at large have little say in the government of the US.
The only way to get closer to that process in this country is to actually seek election into office and become one of those officials. The funny thing about that notion is that in the original conception of these Offices, they were viewed as duties, as some service that one was pressed into performing for the greater good. They were not something that one sought out, not something that one campaigned for, but something that others had nominated you to e chosen to perform. If you were elected, your reluctant service in that capacity was motivated by a sense of duty... something along the lines of being drafted. The character of these Offices has definitely changed in that regard, as nowadays people view them as something to aspire to, a career. This was not the mindset of the original founders, and many of the diaries of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, et.al. reflect that.
I'll leave the issues of election of OHO, and higher Offices of OTO to those who know firsthand about the processes involved and the history of those events until such time that I can become familiar with those things firsthand.
Love is the law, love under will.
Frater M.A.Ch.H. 999
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