Thelema Bill, ... LOL - have yet to meet a species of qabalah that would confine itself to a single pigeon hole. Since we aren t relying on pigeons anyhowMessage 1 of 107 , Sep 9, 2007View SourceThelema Bill,
On 08/09/2007, Bill Heidrick <heidrick@...> wrote:
> At 09:27 AM 9/8/07 +0100, "Jake Stratton-Kent"
> <jakestrattonkent@...> wrote:
> >> That would be what I've called "hotel room code" with A = 1, through Z = 26
> >> for English and other terminal numbers for other alphabets.
> >yep, disparaging terms aren't infrequent from some sources.
> Seems less disparaging than pigeon holes, to me.
LOL - have yet to meet a species of qabalah that would confine itself
to a single pigeon hole. Since we aren't relying on pigeons anyhow
maybe we need condor or albatross holes. ;-)
Take Abulafia, he covers ecstatic qabalah, literal qabalah, practical
qabalah *all at once*. Guess that's why we occasionally talk of
The modern tendency to describe Qabalah itself as a pigeonholing
system, (with gematria a subset involving 'word association by
numbers') also tends to become reductionist, or at least doesn't cover
all the bases that interest me.
> >> True, and even with that limitiation one can use lower case or other
> >> language alphabets. Physics commonly uses Greek after the Latin letters
> >> run out, as well as old-style German in printed texts.
> >well, there is that, but apparently Geber wasn't using them for lists,
> >he was enumerating emblematic terms and then using the numbers to
> >refer to them.
> >Like a Latin alchemist might use 'Cabala Simplex' to
> >enumerate 'Green Lion' (its Latin equivalent) and then use the
> >enumeration as shorthand.
> Curious that the Simplex seems only to work consistently for Latin
> alchemical terms. That's a potential point in an argument for artificial
> spelling to force number association.
could be, and a 'myth' of a 'college of rabbis' or 'secret chiefs in
council' formulating the language often comes along with that notion
in its various guises. Oddly enough, in English Qaballa, SECRET CHIEF
and ENGLISH ALPHABET have the same value, 187.
With a restricted vocabulary - say the vocabulary of AL - a smaller
number range is by no means an inhibiting factor. That over
opinionated but under informed types tend to miss this point when
rushing in with their critiques never ceases to amaze and amuse.
Present company excepted of course ;-)
In any case, as with many other systems, means of extending the number
range aren't absent.
> >around gold, lions etc. oddly enough. Not that I'm a linguist, but
> >then if the experts are too lofty to do anything but mock, the
> >amateurs have to step in. ;-)
> Amateurs have more time for innovation and native inter-disciplinary
> predilection anyway.
yup, guess we both see ourselves in that light. ;-)
PS, Not a biggie for the general topic, but needs saying for those
following some of the technicalities: in another phase of this
discussion we looked at the EQ text 'Liber 28' (purely a working title
incidentally) where the name RA HOOR KHUT occurs, couldn't help
noticing you read this as RA HOOR KHUIT.
Qaballistically the two are no more identical than - say - IHVH and
IHShVH, or Iacchus and Bacchus.
RA HOOR KHUT = 97 (=NOTHING)
RA HOOR KHU = 73 (=SATURN)
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> The Sight and Quatraining turned on a Nu Light in Hrumachis &made Bleary &:::lol::: Quatrain? Where have I heard that word before? ;)
> Dreary Cloud somewhat blue, because Glad was with Sad instead of Dreary, and
> Bleary wanted to be with Glad too.
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