... Thelema, what is the widely accepted usage nowadays of what Thelema is? Is it one of the categories below, and if not, why not? a) implications withinMessage 1 of 3 , Jan 20, 2007View SourceOn 20/01/07, HornedGod93@... <HornedGod93@...> wrote:
> Question for you. Considering your own personal usage of word Thelema,Thelema,
> limited as it is to the origin and earlier usage of the word, and differing so
> greatly from the widely accepted usage nowadays, why do you call the list
> Thelema93? Why not Volition List, or something less deceptive? It seems that, since you
> do not accept the Law of Thelema or the existence of individual true Will
> inherent to it, the name of this list is a blatant misrepresentation intended to
> attract inquiries within a subject for which you inevitably show nothing but
what is 'the widely accepted usage nowadays' of what Thelema is? Is it
one of the categories below, and if not, why not?
a) implications within the Book of the Law, including it's exegesis?
b) general traditions inherited from AC, transmitted through the
conduit of a particular interpretation?
c) magic, incorporating the best of past systems updated on the basis
of a correct understanding of 418?
Nowadays there is a lot of b) around, but not so very long ago a)
seemed perfectly viable to a lot of folks (most of whom disagreed on
principles of exegesis, but no matter). c) is very much a minority
perspective, some deeper and wider efforts in that direction by the
Thelemic community in general wouldn't hurt.
Personally Thelema nowadays seems like a tremendous letdown, and
neglect of the implicit possibiliites leaves me incredulous. As does
the widespread homogenous and static 're-enactment Thelema' which has
abandoned all potential for a vanguard position within modern magic.
hi HornedGod93@aol.com: # Considering your own personal usage of word Thelema, that spans quite a gamut. I don t have a pet fave. tendency is one of the 2Message 1 of 3 , Jan 21, 2007View Sourcehi
# Considering your own personal usage of word Thelema,
that spans quite a gamut. I don't have a pet fave.
tendency is one of the 2 common valences (philosophy)
though my tendrils are extended into the other goo.
# limited as it is to the origin and
# earlier usage of the word, and differing so
# greatly from the widely accepted usage nowadays,
this doesn't seem to apply.
# why do you call the list Thelema93?
I didn't name the group, it was named prior
to the time that i began moderating.
# Why not Volition List, or something less
# deceptive? It seems that,
we're stuck with it. like branding our weenies.
# since you do not accept the Law of Thelema
them's religious words, ain't they? special profound
meanings? could you explain what it means to accept
the Law of Thelema and how one verifies having done it?
# or the existence of individual true Will inherent
# to it....
that's a fairly unorthodox form. usually 'Will'
is an abbreviated referent True Will or true will
when the subject comes up, 'the divine (or transcendant)
will', otherwise. fools take the Truth of Will for
granted, silent in their special arrogant power.
# ...attract inquiries within a subject for
# which you inevitably show nothing but disdain.
Crowleyanity? sometimes i disdain that,
i guess. it gets old.
Thelema? it's half of a tantric mystico-magical
tour de force out of entanglements and into
Cosmic Manipulator status. it forms in complement
with Agape, the two poles being used to ripen
spiritually. the latter is the erotic coagulant
and the former is the ascetic distiller, the
varying thelemas weaving between them.
the Great Rite is of a kind that makes such a
complement, and it is amusing to consider this
as a sociological whole where these subcultures
(Wicca/Neo-Gnosticism) coincide. the religions
overlap in use of Crowley's writings, such as
botanical portions in Gnostic Mass/Wiccan liturgy.
1 Law and a side of chips for here, please.