> > 8. Freemasonry could be applied to the OTO, however the OTO has
> > legitimate masonic heritage. Sorry Jones....but I dont think so.
> > Although it could be argued that if Crowley truely discovered
> > freemasonry secrets and developed them into the OTO, it would of
> > advantage for thelemites to discover if masonry was pertinent or
> > helpful to their personal initiation.
"David Jones" <choronzon.club@...>:
> I don't O.T.O. think has a legitimate Masonic lineage either, but
> think that Crowley was legitimately initiated into what would
> generally be considered regular Freemasonry. Different points,
> be confused. As for value, all I can say is that O.T.O. initiates
> general, even those who are responsible for the footnotes for
> degrees are often so woefully ignorant of some of the most basic
> tenets of Freemasonry that their interpretations of the meaning of
> some the Freemasonically derived symbols in O.T.O. initation
> are often embarrassing.
Do what thou wilt shall be teh whole of the Law.
Interesting. The OTO was founded in the 1700-1800's, and was a
Masonic Order up until Crowley was given the OHO seat. Generally
also, secrets are kept for the higher degrees, which you don't get
into, seriously, until the Lover Triad, and only partially even
then. What I've seen, when you meet a serious member, they actaully
do know quite a bit. Crowley is known as a ex-ember of the Golden
Dawn, a Freemasonic Order. He made it to the 33rd through that
Order, not tomention his other dealings. And many of the secrets
are in his writtings, if you know what to look for.
Love is the Law, love under will.
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