At 06:49 AM 1/27/05 +0000, Peter Koenig wrote:
c) steiner never had anything to do with the OTO
Steiner did have Memphis Misraim initiation (simply
bestowed upon him), he wrote about masonry from that
perspective. Reuss would not have failed to award a
OTO charter to him. That Steiner didn't act on it,
isn't the same as saying he had no involvement.
Steiner would never play a subordinate role,
everything had to feed into his own schemes. The OTO
isn't really as separate of a phenomenon as you,
Peter, would describe it. OTO is mixed up with Fringe
Masonry, Martinism, various R+C groups, homeopathy,
alchemy, and Egyptophilia. The "Steinerites"
themselves were/are widely active in every Thelemic
d) the original OTO died with reuss in 1923 although
there is a
surviving branch of the swiss OTO, unbroken, but with
guidelines. non-thelemic. no, it's not metzger's !
Are these the same people who gave you "Archev�que
e) tr�nker's OTO is a new OTO. it died with tr�nker.
Probably absorbed into Pansophia, not Thelemic. Some
Early AMORC members were also involved in Pansophia,
and have bits of it, and Martinist lines from Tranker.
g) krumm-heller's FRA could be seen as a sort of OTO.
it is still
Not Thelemic, seems to be out of control in Europe,
mail order mysticism scams.
h) crowley's OTO is a new OTO
i) crowley's OTO died with crowley
Based on bureaucratic reasoning. Crowley never
created a fully realized and manned OTO system
according to his scheme anyway. There were enough
competent personnel post 666, to run the Man of Earth
triad. Coupled with EGC and Crowley texts, everything
else could be, and for the most part were,
reconstructed. Anyone who has received a step in this
system has some knowledge about it. Arguing about
whether it is legalistically valid and transferrable
is existentially absurd, and of less importance.
Reality: OTO's from Crowley exist and will continue.
Are they well managed? That is a separate argument.
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