93 ... Well clearly eyeofhoor mistakes religous authority for the body of believers, but since he is never going to read the text he is criticizing he ll neverMessage 1 of 102 , Jan 19, 2004View Source93
>Eye of Hoor wrote:Well clearly eyeofhoor mistakes religous authority for the body of
>You were right about one thing--I have not read the City of God in
>its entirety, I couldn't stomach it. After perusing it, it was
>evident that it's the same redundant, RELIGIOUS CRAP, that I'm intent
>on distancing myself from.
believers, but since he is never going to read the text he is
criticizing he'll never discover the real meaning thereof. I do find it
incredibly curious and sadly indicative of the state of so-called
thelemic scholarship that many who claim to do important research in
Thelema are willing to criticize something without ever having read it.
I also find it funny that eyeofhoor is perfectly willing to cite loose
interpretations of Egyptian texts as sources but goes on to claim he is
rejecting Ancient religious nonsense. How he intends to understand
Thelemic history when he can't cope with "boring" "religious crap" is
beyond me but he is certainly entitiled to have at it; I hope he doesn't
expect people not to call him on his ignorance of history. It does
fascinate me that there seems to be this trend in Thelema to some
pretend orthodox zeal that acts as if knowledge of the past is itself a
bar to understanding. Let us forget the past!" Seems the cry of the
fundamentalist Thelemite, don't corrupt me with facts about the past,
lest my personal interpretation of the texts be confused by facts and
history. Fundamentalism makes this cry in all religions and makes the
same mistakes over and over and over again. I guess I shouldn't be
surprised, all religions are corrupted eventually and why should I
expect it to be different for Thelema, and why not sooner than later?
Colligo Carus wrote: email@example.com wrote: ... I m not sure why you relate this to thelema or the law thereof. It seems to be aMessage 102 of 102 , Mar 8, 2007View SourceColligo Carus <colligocarus@...> wrote:
> 93I'm not sure why you relate this to thelema or the law thereof.
> A quote I cam across which seems pertinent to Thelema
> "We are not afraid to say 'Do what you will: act as you will', because
> we are persuaded that the great majority of mankind, in proportion to
> their degree of enlightenment, and the completeness with which they free
> themselves from existing fetters, will behave and act in a direction
> useful to society"
It seems to be a rather blinded view of man. a restatement of the "scrub
Can you chain the gap for me?
>>>>Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Can only speak from own personal experience. Performing one's True Will is the bottom line. A mind that is concerned with success is just as bound and tied up as a mind that is concerned with failure....bottom line, perform one's True Will and be not concerned with the end result. Being indifferent and unattached to results helps one perform actions. To many times the mind becomes warped with thoughts like "will this really work" or "what will others think"....The issue is not the end result----the issue is performing one's True Will. Unless one acts on True Will, you might as well be sitting in the Abyss.
Love is the law, love under will
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