Dear Friends on T-93,
A real fairly intersting topic this Crowley/Hitler "Myth" discussion and I
attendet lots of discussions about it in our Lodge here in Berlin (!), for
you can imagine, that a possible Thelema and NS-relation could just be a very
controversial thing here in Germany.
I resasearched some years ago already in several Archives about any
historical valuable and serious documents that could posssibly deal with
Thelema/NS and my conclusions are in a way more disappointing in historical
regards, but much more satisfactory
for myself as a complete anti-totalitarian Thelemite.
Crowley was surley "fascinatet" by some aspects of NS but this is more to
regard in his interest in extreme changes in the world in general and of
course in considering actual analysis of Liber CCXX.
Crowleys "Übermensch"-attitudes were nothing much unusual in intellectual
bohemia circles in his days. F. Nietzsche was discussed and adored by many
artists and writers who would belong much more to the "left-wing" parts of
society and they were never to be connected in any way with Hitlers and ideas
or those of his bloody posse. Imagine Henry Miller supporting Hitler or even
earlier DADA-Movement artists like Walter Serner who once said:" Today in the
world for me is nothing to read beside "Nietzsche and Max Stirner". This
great Man that has even a very comparable style & habitus in his literature
as Crolweys, starved to death by the Nazis and was eventually murderd in
The Aura of pre-NS in Berlin where Crowley had his paintings exhibited in '31
in Porza-Gallery was already attacked by Nazi-inflammatory campaign Press
before these cranks came into complete political power.
Crowley was well known by certain Nazi security agents and filed as an
international "Hochgardfreimaurer" "Sex-cultist" and "Entarteter Künstler".
Also he was mentioned often as a ruthless spy with "Jewish-backers" and as
His complete ideas of Thelema (as far as understood;-) and also several
"Interpretations" of the Liber Al vel Legis were printet in the inflammatory
paper: "Der Judenkenner" in which you can find at least about 10 long
articles about Crowleys connection with the Golden Dawn Memphis
Misraim/Yarker/Ress and O.T.O. etc. (Members all named like Mathers, Westcott
et al.) even Martha Kuentzel was mentioned in "der judenkenner" as a
follower of the "self styled messiah Crowley" and I do not think that her
assumed gift of the BotL to Hitler has left much impressions this way;-)
Crowleys ambitions as a "spy" in ww. first, are very good documented and in
my opinion more to consider as some of Crowleys desperate trys of playing an
important rôle in a society which disdained him as he scorned this society
The ideas of Crowley as a kind of "fire starter" or trigger of NS - delusions
are in no way convincing. I wonder if anybody in this discussion read Susters
book "Hitler and the Age of Horus" wherin the Historian Gerald Suster -a
former OTO - member in the 80's-who died about 4 years ago, trys to proove
similaryties in between the BoL and Hitlers writings as in "Mein Kampf". He
is really doing very well and every chapter starts with a Line of the BotL
and a line of the "Führers" or other Nazi leaders. It's fascinating to read,
but Suster uses anything that serves his demonstration no matter how absurd
or idle his mostly complete unscientific sources are.
A wonderful example for this is his "discovery" of the Nazi-salutation as
beeing the same gesture as the Golden Dawn / A.'.A.'. Godposition of Set (or
sign of the Gnomes) that does relate indeed to the element Earth; which
prooves for Suster the conclusion that the Nazis used&produced concioussly
magickal powers and currents to "rule the "Earth"".
(The sign of the God set at battle: stand straight, left foot for, right
arm/hand streched up/left arm hand streched downwards - both arms in one
line...wich is not exactly the nazi-salutation : "Heil Hitler!")
In the end of 19th century surly a tremendous and aggressive current was
ruling not only in Europe, Recession, colonialisms ending, the heights of
idustrialisations, faschism Communism&Stalinism, Concetration camps and
gulags Inflation and starving and explotation of the poor workers etc.) and
everybody has today his right to see this announced in some parts of the
But the reasons for those horrors and political crimes and the conscioussly
and organized killings of millions of people are not to find in "black
magick" but in the stupidity and greed of mankind that provides a policy that
we have to bear and handle than same as today.
Everybody on this great planet should use his personal way of Magick to
create a universe that has the chance of growing and may get to attain
godhead and the best he can to is to start with himself.
But we all have to see, that before all magick done all of our tempels (I n A
nd O utside) must be cleansed. And the tool for this to gain is at first pure
earthly matter and thought.
> >No, there were no real connection between A.C. and Hitler. There
> >isn't even any evidencefor any contact between Hitler and Kuentzel.
> >The correspondence between A.C. and Kuentzel reveals that she sent
> >Hitler a copy of the Book of the Law, but it is unlikely that this
> >ever reached the eyes of Hitler, and it was sent long after Hitler
> >had worked out the basics in his program. So in short it is unlikely
> >that A.C. ever had any effect or received any warm welcome in the
> >halls of Hitler.
> Thanks. I suppose the only thing MWT indicates is that Soror I.W.E. had at
> least attempted to contact him. Although Crowley's recomendation that he
> adopt the proper balancing regime may imply that there was real activity
> going on, or that he (and perhaps Soror I.W.E.) was lead to belive there
> If there is even the remotest possible connection between Hitler and the
> BOTL, I'd like to know, if only to know he may have been affected by it and
> maybe add him to the list of failed magickal children.
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